Counterstrike

[Mad]

Perhaps with the same weapons, Sounds and Maps. That would be a great success !!

[Bwian]

Sure, it would be pretty good... but why bother, if it's exactly the same? I like Counter-Strike, but if I want to play it, that's what I'll do. If someone makes a realistic combat mod for Serious Sam, I'd like to see new and different features. The Hit-Squad mod seems to be doing that quite nicely, IMO. :)

[Caid]

DENIED

first off, there all ready is a cs, it's called counterstrike, the biggest most popular crappy mod in all existence

second of all, COUNTER STRIKE SUCKS
it's for ****ing newbies and SS is NOT a newbie friendly game

there will be no CS in SS

[Bwian]

Dood, newbies in CS get '0wn3d', to say the least. It just takes a different play style, I think. If you don't like the mod, that's ok... but don't bash the players man.

Also, I'd say SS has many newbie-friendly modes of play. Work your way up from tourist to easy to normal, etc... It's not that hard to get into a game and get better.

[Caid]

/sam_bCSRantEnabled=1
i just think CS is the N*Sync of gaming. i'ts a mediocre, highly marketed, very commercialized, inbalanced mod.
Gooseman took the concept of Action Quake (one of the finest quake 2 mods still around) and removed everything that made it fun.

CS is terrible for one reason mostly - the realism
the anal, un-fun, down to the atom realism of cs is really REALLy boring and unbalanced.

that's what makes SS fun! you get to shoot a CANNON for god's sake!

if i ever see a CS mod in SS i will cry

[BirddoG]

HE PITY DEM CS FOOS!!


sorry, but Mr. T rocks :)

[SuperTech]

I have heard it refered to more than once as the AOL of FPS games. ;)

[Max Damage]

Erm - counterstrike is brilliant, and current king of all the 'realism' mods out there. The servers I play on are home to a good mix of average and godly players - I find I'm somewhere between those two levels =)

Anyhow, I don't think a CS ripoff would work with sam - sam's engine allows you to do some really epic things - how about something original?

[Roman]

fellow CS sucks supporters,

i'm with you...the game isn't realsitic in many way yet in somne ways where it is its crappy

lets see 1-3 shot kills...woohoo!!!
lets see bullets dont go through walls, bombs don't blow up parts of buildings...{hum, very realsistic indeed}

also the game is for campers ONLY...i give it 4/10 at most

[Bwian]

I'll admit it's not super-realistic... and I personally wouldn't want it that way. It was created with a sense of balance between realism and fun.

Bullets going through objects is dependent on the 'energy' that the CS coders have given to each projectile type (different weights/sizes of bullets, I mean), and in some cases, is a limitation of the engine (such as going through multiple walls).

As for bombs.. That is definitely an engine limitation, and a difficult thing to do correctly in the first place. If you played HL Singleplayer, you'd notice that during the beginning explosion that wrecks all hell on the Black Mesa Facility, the map changes. There is just too much to deal with when making a realistic-looking explosion, I'd say.

Define 'camping'. :)

[Belabor]

On this subject... An ACTION-SeriousSam would be awesome.

But you would have to start by removing that lame autoaiming from SS though. ;)

[Roman]

camping...being either in one spot too long to get extra kills for your score or being a cheap ass and waiting out...

on the other hand a "realsitic" mod for SS wouldn't be bad..but i'd just have to be different from CS in a few ways...

[Bwian]

Wow... I didn't realize someone else also knew the difference between 'camping' and 'defending'! :biggrin:

I'd like to see a realistic mod as well, it just has to be different. I think it's the along the same lines as Serious Fortress... we're trying to add varying and new ways of playing (new weapons, a new weapons system, more 'objective-based' gameplay, teams vs. monster, etc), which will hopefully set us apart from other TF clones, even if we are able to create similar, familiar locations like 2fort. ;)

[Caid]

hehe ASS i thought about Action SS for awhile

wouldn't work

and as for cs...

http://www.summerblue.net/games/counterstrike/index.html

read this

[Max Damage]

Action SS - why wouldn't it work? What's the problem? Action quake 2 had some huge cityscape maps, but given a sam-level makeover, it could become godly.

And CS is boring, totally and utterly. Unless you play on a good server with experienced players, then it takes on a tactical depth akin to chess, with close stealth maneuvers, snipers with nerves of steel and kamikaze shotgun chargers.

Try the demon UK servers, and I'll kick your furry arse while your there caid. Despite it not feeling as 'gritty' as action quake 2, I personally feel it's the closest to online warfare we've got at the moment.

I've also been playing it since beta 1, and I have found every version an improvement - of couse, there's been whiners, lots of them, but I just ignore em.

[Caid]

max, i don't want to be in a flame war
i'll condede that cs has it's up points

and there's no need for A-SS because of what's called "RQ3"
if you ICQ me i'll tell you about it, but it's kind of underwraps at the moment

[Max Damage]

Yay! I won the flame war! You su)(0r! BLEH! Haa haaa!

Naah - just kidding. No hard feelings caid. Just keep in mind that just cos you say something sucks, it actually might not for everyone.

Whenever I put a game down, I make it clear that it is ME that doesn't like the game. If other people like it, fine, no problem.

Hell - I've tried all the major online RPG's out there. I eventually gave in to constant reccomendation and got everquest (aka Digital Crack). I just didn't like it. It wasn't my style - too much slow paced dungeon crawling, not enough roleplaying, or plot. Of course, thousands of people are addicted to it, so it's probably quite good but just not my taste..

Ultima online on the other hand (which has been endlessly bashed for having 2d graphics - what's wrong with 2d?) is a game I love with all my soul. On the europa server which I used to play on (my registration expired), the plot was constantly evolving, people roleplayed a lot, and I actually got caught up in full blown WARS between the forces of good and evil. Leading a cavalry charge into an advancing horde of lizardmen is just soooo cool! =)

Then again, I know people who wouldn't tough the game with a bargepole. Guess it's not their style either.

Anyhow - enough procrastination and elaboration. Caid, drop the god complex and I'm sure we can get along fine. If you had just said ONCE that you didn't like CS, I wouldn't have been annoyed, but constant vehement spam is just too much for me.

Time to call a ceasefire.
This flame war is OVER.

(Edited by Max Damage at 12:02 am on April 5, 2001)

[KrAzY]

you know what max.... you are a good man... you brought a tear to my eye. =) i completly agree with what you said. like a game if you like it, if you dont then fine, keep it too yourself, dont bash it for others right? i love cs. nothing wrong with it too me.. but ah, maybe it isnt a great game for you people out there. oh and max, whats this everquest digital crack thing eh? i wanna here.

[Max Damage]

Everquest is famous for it's armies of addict players who will happily stay up till 3am in the morning just... to... slay.. that... one... more... orc....

You get the idea. It's a fairly nice 3d dungeon crawl, but personally I like my RPG's with roleplaying and a strong story.

Last I heard, they dropped the price of EQ in the states to 10 dollars.. That also includes one month of free play (which would normally cost.. 10 dollars). It's also an extra 10 dollars a month after the first, but you don't have to keep playing if you didn't like it after the free time. It's your call. I suggest you try it - you might like it.

On the other hand, I suggest you also try ultima online, third dawn - it's added 3d models and graphics, but kept the 2d backgrounds. It also seems rather nice - I may upgrade and re-register soon!

[KrAzY]

ok... i had ultima before, it was ok, but i didnt understand it at all, so i may give it another shot

[Max Damage]

Ultima requires real patience to start out.. Fighting rats in britain sewers is the best way, but some people insist that hours spent lumberjacking are more productive.. I could never stomach all the boring stuff though - I hurled myself straight into the combat!

It's easily the most complex of the online RPG's as well - a really detailed world that allows you to do almost anything you please. This has the side effect of being a little bewildering, especially if you haven't played any previous ultima games (7 & 8 are best training). Persevere, and you'll find that once you've toughenend up a bit (there's no 'level' system) you'll be able to join a party and go adventuring..

This is when the real fun starts, and you'll find yourself getting tougher MUCH faster, and the loot keeps rolling in! =)

[KrAzY]

are the offline game like the online ones? i'm not really in the money to sport myself another account and would like to get into the game first...

[Max Damage]

Thing with ultima, the only one you can buy in shops now is 9 (any of the older ones were DOS and as such, unlikely to run on windows), and that just sucked the big one. Bugged to hell, illogical, and played more like tomb raider than ultima. I suggest you just play a good solid month of ultima online, following tutorials when nessecary, and experiment.

It's your call though - 10 dollars is hardly going to break the bank though, will it? ;-)

[KrAzY]

yeah yeah, true.. thanks

[KrAzY]

hah! i just realized that we arent talking about this discussion on this board at all! lets drop the ultima thing unless you wanna e-mail me (major_86_13@yahoo.com) CS would be awsome!

[Napalm man]

Ugh. Counter-strike... (begin rant)

Personaly, it wasn't my kind of thing. I don't mind it, if it wasn't for those guys who like to go about and whine "it's not realistic!" about everything. Sam had that problem too. I remeber one guy ranting that there was no room in the PC gaming market for a "unrealistic game". Phht. Shows what they know... (Closing rant)

Anywho, yeah, and action Sam MOD would be great! I'd play as long as it wasn't CS-like...you know what I mean, painfly real in EVERY BLOODY WAY.

Other then that, it would be great. Hmm...perhaps a action/matrix Sam MOD? ;)

[Entroper]

Since everyone is throwing in their 2 cents here, why not, I'll add to the pile.  I hope I don't offend anyone or cause this to escalate.  I'll try to keep it clean, but very opinionated.  It is, after all, my opinion.

Counter-strike is an extremely fun game.  Teaming up with friends or complete strangers, trying to plant a bomb or rescue hostages, or prevent the enemy team from doing so, often ends up being very exciting, and fills me with adrenaline.  The sound of gunfire is excellent; I immediately know that I shouldn't step around that corner or I'll be face to face with a para, or under sniper fire from long range with an AWM.  I don't care if getting my pinky shot off by an AWM wouldn't kill me in real life, or if a glock round would go through a piece of paper, or if I would really piss my pants if I were actually about to try to kill ten armed terrorists and not injure any hostages in the process.  It's fun as shit.

The game has problems.  I don't know what kind of lag compensation or not lag compensation or client-side bullet hole prediction or whatever the hell it is, that's in place; it's too screwed up to tell.  I can tell that that aspect of the game is one that isn't going to go away, so I can only try to enjoy it in its state of screwiness.  If they wanted to do client-side prediction without actually compensating for the client's lag, they could've done it so that it appears the same on everyone's machine, when all packets are accounted for.  They didn't.  And so we have a game during which people yell "HE SHOT ME THROUGH THE WALL!" or "GODDAMN LAG< I PUT A FULL CLIP INTO HIS BRAIN", etc. etc.  Combine that with sometimes unpredictable recoil, or knowing whether you've lied still on the ground long enough without sneezing to have a steady zoomed AWM shot, and you have an unfortunate situation.  And so I only play when I'm at school and have 50 ping.  :)

The world isn't perfect.  Doesn't that suck?

Entroper

[KrAzY]

you know what, just like max, you seriously, well, no, but imaginary tear to my eye with that, it was a beauty! i totally agree. good man!

[Mad]

Thanks for your opinions, although most of them where against a SeSa-Mod (I call it SeSa, its sounding more stylish than the boring shortcut "SS" :D) like CS. I think it is one of the best Games (or Mods) ever made, includind SeSa of couse :D
OK, it isn't realistic at all, but the maps, the teamplay, the weaponry and the different armed Teams - having both completely different tasks - makes CS very exciting and interesting, I think. Coupled with the enormous features of the perfect SeSa-Engine, it would be better than ever before.

Many people tried to convert the ideas of CS to other engines like Unreal Tournament or Q3A, but all of them had no success. But the conversion to SeSa would!

Don't you think so?
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AND CS IS NO LAMER-GAME, OK? :D

[KrAzY]

i'll help you with the mod if thats what you want

[Entroper]

I think a lot of CS-style mods for other FPS games were just poorly done.  Perhaps they tried to change too many things to be original, or perhaps they tried to be too realistic, or maybe it was just that none of the ones I played seemed very exciting at all.  Where's the sound of that auto-shotgun to scare the hell out of you?  Where's the footsteps of your 6 team members as you all rush to the secondary bomb point?  Plus, in most of the ones I played, you spent too much time each round walking, and not enough time shooting.  It's very annoying to walk a mile only to get shot in the head and then wait to respawn.  If you think you can recreate the counter-strike experience with a better engine (and this is definitely better than the HL engine), go for it.  I hope you succeed.  Just keep in mind, that above all else, your mod must be fun.

[Chance]

I'd like to see a combination of CounterStrike and FireArms.  FireArms has some gameplay types that would work great with the SS engine (all those control point maps), but I prefer the CS style weapons/damages.  I think a mod that includes CS bomb/terrorist rescue type maps and big FA type maps would be great.  It would give the people who like to snipe in large areas (like me :)) something to do and give the people with shorter attention spans something to do also.  

The idea needs some tuning, but I'd like to see it done.  If I could model/map worth a damn, I'd try it...and I might anyhow, if I can find any time.

[Htown]

No Action Serious Sam.

Just look at the initials.

[Maonth]

HELL NO.

I don't want to sound too negative, but Counterstrike is missing action and gameplay. DO you know why i love Serious Sam? Well, it's because it preferes gameplay over realism. Realism is way too focused on, and it will most likely ruin the gameplay. Why people actually LIKE Counterstrike, i don't know. But please don't take away the focus on Serious Sam plain with some damn overrealistic projectile only Llamah hive, boring CounterStrike mod. Besides. I think CS will be dead in half a year!

[Entroper]

Maonth, I don't want to sound negative either, but "missing action and gameplay"??  Ten people tossing grenades, moving forward, falling back, shooting each other up, ducking behind boxes while the other half of the team sneaks around back with the bomb is missing action and gameplay?  It's possible to have some amount of realism and not destroy the gameplay, and counterstrike is the perfect example.  How realistic is it that you can survive two shots to the head with a glock?  How realistic is it that submachine gun fire won't go through a wooden door, but a round from a desert eagle will?  People who like counterstrike find it exciting and fun, to answer your question.  As for CS being dead in half a year, check the gamespy server statistics on September 5th and let me know how many people are playing.

I'm not trying to bash you or anything.  But if you don't like counterstrike, fine, don't download a CS-style mod for Serious Sam.  Don't discourage others from making one if they think it will be fun; we'll never know how fun it could be if it doesn't get finished.  There are over ten thousand people playing counterstrike at any given time.  It can't be that bad of a game.

[KrAzY]

hey entroper, nice mod with serious fortress thing, it sounds nice

[rico]

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[KrAzY]

NICE!!! It's true though. All the people arguing about CS being good or not. I say just shut the hell up but you know, I don't think that anyone will either listen or care. But I am now gonna put my OPINION in. CS is truely a great game to me. Great gameplay, sounds, realism, and fun modes. What people dont realize that they are being really immature by saying it sucks and basically whoever likes it sucks with it. See, you would never know how the CS mod would be on the SS engine anyways so you wouldn't know if it would even be good or bad. It may not be good for that matter but what happens if it is good(if it's ever made) and you like it all you non CS likers? what happens then?

P.S. I wassa know how to mod, the SDK thing didnt work for me at all and i want some kinda tutorial or something. Someone post with info or something for that matter! PLZ!

[Maonth]

Hmm...

I didn't say CS sucked and that's it. I should have put an IMO in there, my mistake. But i think CS lacks gameplay and action, mostly because of how slow they move, that you can only have certain guns at one time.  [IMO]

Serious Sam, is a very different game. It's packed with action. It's the most fun i've had in years. Building a CS mod for this would take away the focus on Serious Sam itself. I would really hate seing such a good game, being turned into something like CS.

This is just my oppinion. I wouldn't DL a counterstrike mod for SS, people may do whatever they want. i'm just saying my oppinion!.

And yes. I still believe CS will be dead soon! More and more people have been quitting it lately.

[Egg]

I agree with Entroper. If you don't want it for Serious Sam, don't say it won't be fun, just don't download it.

(quote)Serious Sam, is a very different game. It's packed with action. It's the most fun i've had in years. Building a CS mod for this would take away the focus on Serious Sam itself. I would really hate seing such a good game, being turned into something like CS(quote)
It would have nothing to do with SS, so how could it take the fun away? Don't want it, don't download it.

[Maonth]

I didn't say the fun of SS would go away, i just said it would take the focus off of SS

[Mad]

No, Sorry, I'm not good in coding at all. I only asked, if someone would be interested to create such a mod. Ok, in a far far future, I will be able to make some maps for it, but Coding + Modeling is too difficult for me at this time. Maybe i'll learn it, but one man alone can't do a mod of this kind. Perhaps the developers of the original CS would be interested in helping me, I'll ask them :D
If we could get a team of nearly 10 people containing Coders, Modelers and Mappers we could start to create that mod, anyone interested in doing so???

To all Cs-Haters (and I think there are much of them in this Forum :D): You don't have to Download the mod and if you don't download it, it wouldn't "destoy" your SeSa (is that what you fear?)
Ok, the idea of that Game was KILLING WITHOUT THINKING, but why couldn't we add some other ideas to the concept. Every one who wants to kill without thinking, can play SeSa to the rest of his life. Somebody who wants to play a (more or less) realistic and exciting mod, can choose this mod. Everybody would be satisfied with the game....

So dont be scared if the mod comes out: It wouldn't change anything on the base game! OK? :D

(Edited by Mad at 8:14 pm on April 6, 2001)

[STP Lutrosis]

Might as well get in on this one, everyone else has ;)

Counter-Strike certainly has a rabid following, but I simply haven't been able to find it in my heart to like the game. I've tried, I really have. But I just can't get into it.

I suppose what gets me is the 'realism.' I don't mean to say I find realistic games boring - far from it. When you're being hunted by an unknown number of tangos and have seen the rest of your team gunned down in front of you, your heart-rate starts to go up ;) The problem I have with the game is that I don't think it went far enough. Yes, you heard me correctly =) I'm a sucker for tactical shooters. I played Rogue Spear religiously for quite a while, and got quite good at it. Running around like a nut with a chaingun killing everything in site is one type of good feeling - putting a 3-round burst solidly through someone's faceplate before they can get a bead on you is entirely different. They're both a rush. I've also gotten into the various Delta Force games to some extent, but those are a bit less tactical.

When I tried Counter-Strike, I expected something along the same lines as Rogue Spear, as far as gameplay went, considering how often I'd heard people harp on its realism. The first game I joined, I was surrounded by 4 idiots on my own team hacking me to pieces. Just getting away from them was enough of a chore. Then I start seeing 'gunfights' with players jumping up and down like bunnyrabits. I'm still puzzled as to why jumping would be included at all. It's a throw-back to a style of play that Counter-Strike was supposed to be a departure from.

And then there are the 'one hit kills.' Or rather, the one-headshot kills, 15 bodyshot kills. Granted, you take a round to the head, you're a dead man, whether it was a 9mm or a NATO round. But you don't take 7 5.66 rounds to the chest without an affect. Even with high-level body armor, you're going to get knocked around enough that shooting won't work out very well.

Obviously a huge amount of people enjoy the game, so saying its no good would be pointless. But it seems like the point of striving for realism in ballistics (which is done very well, I might add) is defeated by including odd features like jumping, and encouraging styles of play that go against the game's premise.

I suppose I should say something related to the topic of the thread as well ;) If someone wants to do a realism mod for SS, I'll back them all the way. I think it'd be great! Just don't make a Counter-Strike clone. Go for something new =)

[Mailman]

HiT-SQUAD seeks to blend the style of the Action mods with the gameplay structure of the realism mods. *If everything works out as I envision it, it will be a ton of fun. *As with CS, we're going to go with a balance between realism and gameplay but balance it in areas that make more sense, i.e. more realistic damage/aiming but faster player speeds. *Also, we're not going to have any hostage or bomb scenarios. *It will be a derivative of CTF/speedball.

[Wytas]

Perhaps with the same weapons, Sounds and Maps. That would be a great success !!


Man, you're mad...
I hate running 0.00000138935 km/h...

But make the mod. I'll try :)

[Adversary]

o_O

[cyborgguineapig]

PISS OFF ALL YA ALL!! You them all bashers are quite hypocritical, Nice!

[DaPlaya]

oh, FFS has anyone noticed the date of this ...

@Wytas: dude you're replying to a message posted over 2 years ago, by a member who has not viewed these forums just over 23 months ago. yet your reply implys as if it was posted yesterday by a normal member. :hat:

overall moral, please refrain from pointless bumping of aged threads. it's much less confusing that way. :hat: :bgrin:

[AverageJoe]

Wyats...STOP ****ING DOING THIS.



NOW!

[GrAFix]

WTf is up with wytas..o_O

[cyborgguineapig]

Pep,EPe,Pep,PEep, NO NO Don't Speak, NO more word youfr om STOPIT!

[Adversary]

now look what u've done wytas ;) .... hmmmmmmmm

well i thought the o_O face summarised it all, hopefully this won't happen again... :P

[/thread dies]

[SeriousGamer]

[/thread dies]

That seems like a double negative to me. :)

[Wytas]

Goddammit, f***, jesus, ****, ***< !$#^@#!&, !@#%$#$^&@@#,!@#$

I new you guys say it before I posted. Damn F***, !@#$!@, #@%$!, &@$%!@

I just saw this, becouse I came there just before about a year.... :)





Anyway, my signature is Cool, so I can do anything I want :):):)

[Shuriken]

HS is no longer SS, and Seriously Dirty WAS an Action mod, but it r teh dead.

[Electrocuter]

Caid if you think Counter Strike its a ****ing noob game your brain must be toasted, Counter Strike is one of the best games i hever played i just think that the graphics very bad

[Oswald]

Caid if you think Counter Strike its a ****ing noob game your brain must be toasted, Counter Strike is one of the best games i hever played i just think that the graphics very bad/me bashes head against desk
opinions are like assholes...

[Ra\/en]

before we start bashing other peoples opinions on mods..

have any mods for serious sam the second encounter even been finished? o_O

[Shuriken]

before we start bashing other peoples opinions on mods..

have any mods for serious sam the second encounter even been finished? o_O

Parse Error is still in development but I'd say it's good enough to be called 'finished'.

[Shrinker]

CS = TEH SUXOR
My stupid friend plays it instead of doing work for school.
He used to show me how he plays...
-EVERY DAY ALL THE TIME THE SAME BORING MAPS
-ALWAYS THE SAME MOVES IN GAMEPLAY
-HE´S TELLING ME HOW 1337 THIS GAME IS
-HE´S SPENDING NEARLY ALL THE ONLINE TIME FOR CS
-HE´S SCRIPTING AND CHEATING LIKE HELL (well... he tries cheating)
-CS SUXXX

I once played against him and could beat him.
Also the other CS players...
It was in a boring deathmatch map called iceworld (the one that has to have the sun light´s falloff direction -45! instead of +45! yo stupid guy who made it!)
or it was another boring map like that, whatever

CS players are only good in:
-cheating
-flaming
-being german
-being stupid
-being 1337
-being dumbasses who suck

Sorry guys but that hit an emotional point of mine, CS is simply the WORST THING in the world!
(I´d prefer watching an anime instead of being forced to play that shit)

Argh how much I hate it!
(cs players don´t think about it, it will only make your head hurt)

[BurnHavoc]

CS as a game was good and fun (before it left beta). CS as a community developed into the worst symbol of internet idiocity streched to extremes.

[DaPlaya]

before we start bashing other peoples opinions on mods..

have any mods for serious sam the second encounter even been finished? o_O
Night Raiders has been finished and released twice now, though a third version is still under the works.

[AverageJoe]

Hey electrocutor:
8----->

suck it.

We have a rule about bringing up old topics for no reason. You're just going to start a flame war.

[Lacutis]

camping...being either in one spot too long to get extra kills for your score or being a cheap ass and waiting out...

on the other hand a &quot;realsitic&quot; mod for SS wouldn't be bad..but i'd just have to be different from CS in a few ways...

I tried that with Seriously Dirty, but it didn't pick up and noone wanted to contribute.

[Lacutis]

before we start bashing other peoples opinions on mods..

have any mods for serious sam the second encounter even been finished? o_O

I released several versions of Seriously Dirty.

[Shrinker]

So what?

Do you know the "edit post" button?

[Lacutis]

So what?

Do you know the "edit post" button?

Bite me, I was replying to two different messages.

[Shrinker]

So which piece of your body do you not need anymore? :P

[Rig-Jarl]

Oh man, CS pisses me off. It's NOT realistic, the people that play it are fat sacks of fetid shit, and it's the most repetitive asshole of gaming of all time. I can't believe whole servers are just dedicated to playing on de_dust. What's even worse is when all the 10 year olds that play it are using voice chat and they scream "GO TOOOOO BOMB SITE 1!!! GOOOOO." CS has created so many stupid shitheads in the past 3 years that it's beyond not funny. I hate that game with all the hatred in the universe.

[--Fragman--]

Just my thought. I can't get why people are getting so hyped about it. I mean, it was an ok mod (a long time ago), but with all those freaks playing it all the time, it's getting really boring...

[one is serious]

CS Sux. Period.

[AverageJoe]

Stop Bringing This Thread Up!!!!

[cyborgguineapig]

CS Sux. Period.

This is why it keeps going....

Look, I still find it fun and the people I play with are fun too so kiss my ack.

[Oswald]

This is why it keeps going....

Look, I still find it fun and the people I play with are fun too so kiss my ack.nein. this (http://forums.seriouszone.com/showpost.php?postid=465395&postcount=45)(whatever -this- is) is the single largest bump this thread has experienced and both the pro and anti stances are keeping this alive. both sides are keeping the fire burning. only if we throw our collective hands up in a stance of 'who gives a shit' will this sink back to where it belonged, 2001.

[Shrinker]

Someone should close this thread.

[Direkt]

Hey,I want to know when the new SS will appear.CS it'a a good game in it's own way but you can't compare it with SS witch is a great game.Cs is nothing else but an extension of half life and it's main purpose is for multiplayer.In my country when you go to an internet and games cafe everyone plays Cs and I think that everyone on this planet have heard and played Cs(excluding the natives who don't have computers),but if you ask them about SS they look at you very curiously like you swear them or something,seriously.

[Shrinker]

A country where they mostly play CS?
That can only be germany :P

[SeriousGrandpa]

I have a slight feeling that this thread will never die

[BurnHavoc]

ya know, I think I'm starting to believe you

[DaPlaya]

it seems that the moment someone mentions cs, google instantly locks onto that page and all searches will return that..

[cubus]

Ok..i've seen this thread jsut now...and i'm here in this part of the forums for the first time...i think.

Well...i like CS, i play this game about 2 hours a day and it has not affected my language, nor my intelligence until now.
People who say counter-strike is old and not good anymore and has crappy graphics and so on may be right! But who cares?
There ARE actual people in this world who play CS without being fat jerks (or whatever the guy above me said) blah...and bleh...

[Joben]

I have a slight feeling that this thread will never die

Indeed, for it is undead, and yet facinated with itself.

Rather like a zombie documenting it's existance with a camcorder.

http://www.talisweb.com/halloween/costumes/zombie.jpg

[Andrew "The" Judge]

First of all, f*@# all of you who bad mouth Doom, Half-Life or especially Counter-Strike. So what if it's marketed like a champ! It's a great game and still on my computer and always will. Secondly, a zombie fascinated with itself. That's the funniest thing I've heard in a while. True humour! LOL :D