Mod Suggestions/Ideas

[Louva-Deus]

Ok, so list your best mod suggestions for Serious Sam 3: BFE. You never know, someone might actually try to make something out of your suggestion.

My two suggestions so far:

• Knife Mod (replaces sledgehammer with knife.
  
  
• Politik Mod*

* = Two configurable rival political factions square off in a 'Counterstrike'-styled format. Winners gain more advantages in the game but if they continue to dominate the losing team can gain the power to filibuster or to overthrow the leading faction through revolution.

So what are your great ideas for a mod?

[Discy]

Insamnity 3! What else would you ever need?

[Valerie Valens]

Insamnity mod with some ideas taken from Serious Violence. That would be great!

Also, a DM Map pack with map designs taken from Serious Sam TSE, but redone in the style of SS3.
A Third Encounter with all new weapons.
A Top-Down twinstick arcade style shooter mod.
A vehicular combat mod in the style of BtBA or Vigilante 8.
A tower defense mod with a lives and credit system.
A medieval fantasy mod in the style of Heretic and Hexen.
A "back to basics mod" that removes sprinting and ironsights, but makes sam run faster and jump higher, and replaces his weapon set with weapons from TSE.
A mod like this. Or this. To illustrate why so many modern shooters are shit.

[Solais]

An SS3 mappack in the style of Metroid, with new enemies, different environments, and with the possibility of new weapons...
Wait, I'm doing that, I forgot.

A Heretic like medieval fantasy FPS mod would be awesome, I really miss that side genre of FPS games.

[Mischievous]

Why do I have the sneaky suspicion that by 'I', you secretly mean me ? Anyhow I'll keep my awesome eidos in secret for now, as it's far from initiation. My PC is too weak to properly map for ss3

Back on topic, I'd love to see something like Gmod in ss3. It has better physics now, (well not any better that Gmod) also it allows for gigantic maps, so imagine something like Spacebuild but in Serious Sam. Also maybe something like a RP mod for Sam, but I don't know how many takers would there be for that.

[mista_bojjob]

Hey, it'd be awesome if you made a sound mod that changed the new teleport sound effect with the old one. When i first heard it, I was like "...the hell is that noise, am i getting score bonuses or something?"

so yeah, there's a suggestion for ya XD

if you do make this, please please message me

[rflagg]

Serious Chaos.

www.chaoticdreams.org

Chaos lost it's coder and it's mojo when UT3 bombed, and have not recovered since. SS3 is the 1st game to come out since then where I felt a proper match could be made. Provided the engine is capable of doing what is required (and a serious coder could answer those questions).

Especially in the area of ChaosCTF, seeing as how Serious CTF has been left 'wide-open', so to speak.

If you are a serious coder, and want a project to work on, Chaos is a proven concept that spans several games.

I wish nothing but the best for SS3. Nothing draws a crowd like a crowd.

[toastar]

please nobody make the mod 'space dad'. i am making that mod. thanks.

[Mongo]

Classic DeathMatch Arena Mod, which modifies the game's deathmatch to be like HD and classic with the return of the knife and proper damage effects and etc. Needs to be done. Serious Sam ARENA.

[Valerie Valens]

What about a Team Fortress style mod?

[Mischievous]

That is not a good idea, a guy who so much as joked about TF, Notch from Minecraft when he made an Aprilfools's day poke at the TF2 store, almost got the life of him sued out. Valve is one of those companies that has an almost feral attitude towards it's trademarks.

[rflagg]

Mod that removes the need for dedicated 'Survival' maps. Seems like a game type that should be playable on any map. Or at least any DM/TDM map.

Mod that takes Beast Hunt and TeamBH out of campaign mode/maps, and puts it in Survival mode/maps. I think it would make more sense there.

Is there vehicular support in this engine? Team Beast Hunt in giganto Survival type maps with vehicles would please the godz.

Edit:

And random monster spawns in Survival, so that it's not simply a pattern that can be learned and mastered.

Survival CTF (Red vs Blue, and monsters friendly to nobody)

[Pan]

Vehicular Support? Sort of. The animations for player models are there. I've seen those. SED2 had the support and most of the info from that appears to be in there. Could be done.

[Solais]

I think vehicle support is broken in SEd3.5, sadly. It still worked in SSHD.

[rflagg]

Ok...

mod that fixes vehicle support.

[Mischievous]

We can get the player in and out of those with the power of LUA Though it's haxy, so a mod that adds official support would be a welcome.

[dragon99919]

I'm trying to make Sandbox mod, which will be some sort of mixing Heroes III: In the Wake of God (scripts) and Garry's Mod (some tolls and options). I just need to get better acknowledge about Editor, or wait for SDK if I want to make an modification based on source code. Is it avaible in editor, or we have to wait?

[mista_bojjob]

oh god, a Gmod version of serious sam 3 would be amazing

[The Wicker Man]

Serious... Tower... Defense...
Just a mod for survival to add tower defense elements would be cool

[Discy]

Quake remade on the Serious Engine 3.5. The thought alone makes me giddy.

[Mischievous]

Thief mod, that imitates the actual series.

[Louva-Deus]

For the tower defense you could place Sam towers in strategic map locations and you can upgrade them to more powerful weaponry.

[Brute]

Parkour mod. That'd be awesome.

[Mongo]

A Quake remake would be... awesome! I have a lot of friends who are hardcore Quake fans of the original. So, this would be a cool idea.

[Solais]

A remake of Heretic, or something in the same genre as that.

Wait, I said this before. Well, worth mentioning twice!

[Louva-Deus]

Would either of those actually be legal?

[Brute]

Originally Posted by Louva-Deus

Would either of those actually be legal?

As long as you don't gain revenue from it and create all the material from scratch, yeah. I don't see why it wouldn't be.

If you want to get all bent-up over copying level design schematics, then I need only throw around the word "Zeb," who is currently copying an old Quake DM match for SS3.

[Louva-Deus]

I was merely fishing for information. There are many conditions that make a project like a remake possible. Often these conditions are only known to members of those communities.

If I were to remake Quake or Heretic in SE3 I certainly wouldn't copy anything. I would take the core gameplay ideas that made them popular and create something of my own that incorporated those features.

[rflagg]

This conversation is old as dirt. I always quote Ecclesiastes, which goes something like this;
What has been will be again,
what has been done will be done again;
there is nothing new under the sun

But Louva sums it up pretty good.

Originally Posted by Louva-Deus

If I were to remake Quake or Heretic in SE3 I certainly wouldn't copy anything. I would take the core gameplay ideas that made them popular and create something of my own that incorporated those features.

It's one big huge grey area. And conversations like this tend to go in circles upon circles. Survival for example, has been Invasion, it's been Monster Madness, it's been Horde Hunters, and on and on and on. Does anyone even really care anymore where it came first? I certainly don't.

As far as Heretic-ish or Quake-ish mods, well, I hate to overstate my request for a coder, but I really think Both of those could be answered in one tried-and true package (see my sig).

Heretic;
http://www.retrogamer.net/users/682/thm450/heretic.png
Chaos;
http://chaoticdreams.org/wp-content/...s/imphunt3.jpg
(and that's just tip of iceburg, see site for much more)

And let's be fair to mod teams. because it sure as heck doesn't always just go one way. Ah Hell No. Fer example;
Chaos UT2004 has this:
http://chaotic.beyondunreal.com/c2_s...valley/dv4.jpg
after that comes Epic's next game, UT3;
http://screenshots.filesnetwork.com/...9482713_89.jpg

So, ah, yeah. And there are other examples from other mods/games. Count on it.

I think it's a question of integrity, and just how good are you. If all you've got is someone else's IP, you won't last long. Legal or not. Knock yourself out, but you'll still fade away. If however, you can incorporate with a twist, and build / expand with your own special voodoo, well then anything is possible.

[Discy]

Originally Posted by Louva-Deus

I would take the core gameplay ideas that made them popular and create something of my own that incorporated those features.

Isn't that what the whole video game industry is about? Someone popularizes a certain gameplay element and there's a shitload of developers eager to copy it. Bullet-time, quick time events, "perks" in deathmatch games, achievements, leaderboards... basically anything.