Horror Map Contest!

[GeForceNoob]

Meh, we won't finish our map any time soon. The project was too big to be finished for that date. Not to mention other time constrains...Oh well.
But I am gonna show some screenies from the map, which will be, as DNF, released "When It's Done".
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[(k)]

Sorry, my VGA is gone, i cannot do anything I have to retreat

I'm sorry but i am back on line only now

[Deepblue]

and I just plain don't have the skills to finish.

[Wytas]

Originally Posted by GeForceNoob

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Looks great so far, not plain, but detailed, i like

[Finzy]

Updated first post to reflect the end of the contest.

Humiliating defeat.

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Those of you who still wish to finish their maps can do so, but don't expect them to be judged or reviewed here since we couldn't get anything submitted on time in the first place

[The Serious Spoon]

Originally Posted by Finzy

(The contest is now over and the final deadline has been reached. No maps were submitted.)

[Deepblue]

At least it gave us an excuse to do some mapping regardless if we finished or not

[Finzy]

Maybe I should ask all of you what kind of a contest you'd like instead, then. One that people would be committed to finish.

[Deepblue]

How about "minimal effort"?
I would like to attempt a cel-shaded map in SS2

How about surreal?
Make it as weird as possible

Eh, contests are kind of a problem because most of us need too long make maps

[Finzy]

Cel-shaded maps sound awesome, I'd like to try them out sometime as well. The only thing that makes it complicated would be custom textures, but otherwise I think people should be able to finish them on time. (Actually they shouldn't need to be cel-shaded, just using cartoony textures would do).

EDIT: Heh heh, that reminds me of this.

[Deepblue]

With the cel-shading I meant more like this


It's still kinda hard to get right

[Ryason55]

I thought that the deadline was before the end of the 22nd. I had planned on submitting my map today before midnight (GMT -6)...

Edit:

In fact, here it is.

[Finzy]

CONGRATULATIONS SIR, YOU HAVE WON THE CONTEST!
(Updated first post - I'll check your map once I have the time)


@ Deepblue

I think cartoony look should go as well, so it'd be some kind of a "simplified" map contest.

[TwL]

Remember Finzy, if you decided to start another new contest, make sure you study the list of threads I gave you yesterday, and find out the "secret formulas" () Wytas and I had used during the contest era. Also, try to list out the reasons why some contests failed and why some contests succeed. You will see an interesting trend in it.

By doing that, your next contest will surely be a success.

[Finzy]

Will do.

Though I'm unsure if I'll host another contest myself (since then I'd have to crawl back to SED2 once again).

[Deepblue]

How about we don't actually have a contest as such (with deadlines that sorta thing), but we pick a theme, make a map or two and just show off?

With judging, it'd take too long to make sure everyone has finished and we just end up with another failed attempt

Face it, everyone has different mapping speeds and some find it harder than others to get their ideas fully off the ground

Infact a "pass the map" would be easier since there's no deadline and you just have to wait for one person rather than a group before it can continue on

[AverageJoe]

Originally Posted by The Serious Spoon

Indeed!

[Finzy]

This contest did have a pretty long deadline (over two months), and since most people hadn't even started making their map in that time, I don't think that's the case. Even the previous contests succeeded even though they had much shorter deadlines.

I think it's more a case of having picked the wrong theme and this community running out of mappers/inspiration. I guess just making a classic Serious Sam map would've worked out better.

[Deepblue]

Having a regular Sam theme is better because it can span through any months
The horror theme was really only for October


It just doesn't feel right making a horror map on Christmas

Theme for next competition?

"and now for something completely different"

Basically making a map that's in no way similar to CroTeam's stuff
Whether it's the theme of the map or even the graphics (like Cel-shading for example)
Gameplay too

It can be strange or serious and new enemies,vehicles, sounds, music and textures are more than welcome
New models for architecture are a must though, bonus points for not using any of CroTeam's architecture models at all (Textures are ok)

[TwL]

Originally Posted by Finzy

This contest did have a pretty long deadline (over two months), and since most people hadn't even started making their map in that time, I don't think that's the case. Even the previous contests succeeded even though they had much shorter deadlines.

I think it's more a case of having picked the wrong theme and this community running out of mappers/inspiration. I guess just making a classic Serious Sam map would've worked out better.

Well, you are partly right.

Deadlines actually play an important part in your contest. Setting a good deadline is crucial. Having a bad deadline or even no deadline will break your contest.

About wrong themes... well, dynamic lighting support in SE2 is pretty poor, so imo, it is pretty hard to make a good horror or even a spooky map. (in case you are interested, I was thinking about flickering lights when I wrote this. )

We are not running out of mappers... we already have a low amount of mappers all these years. If we compared now and during the contest era, the amount of mappers left in this community are basically the same. In fact, calling this contest the "biggest" one is kinda wrong; we don't list contestants in the past, we just let them join and leave at their own will. Unwary Thief is one who didn't even bother making an official announcement about working on his maps for the contest. He just submit it when he is done. Therefore, your contest will still have a chance to succeed, because the situation now and one year ago didn't really change much tbh.

If you want, I could give you more advice on starting a contest on Steam. Just remember to bring $20 for the consultant fees.

And remember, treat the list of contests like a bible. You will need it.

[Wytas]

Originally Posted by TwL

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t34/TwLImages/contest.jpg

Epic failure

[Deepblue]

Well there are quite a few people who outright quite mapping with the first editor before the second was released

Toastar for example, he only made SS1 maps and stopped before SS2 was released

Most of these people just didn't want to start up again, let alone learn a completely new editor

That might be the reason why we don't have as many mappers here as we once did