2014: A Space Odyssey - the mapping competition

[PikaCommando]

PikaCommando, Serious Sam Revolution.

[Maska322]

Okay, I'll say it one more time.
Maska322
Serious Sam - The Second Encounter

[SLAwww]

Maska322, added you.
PikaCommando, are you sure? You never completed any map, did you?

[PikaCommando]

Originally Posted by SLAwww

Maska322, added you.
PikaCommando, are you sure? You never completed any map, did you?

Eh, it's not like there's limited spots right?

[SLAwww]

On serioussite, whenever someone escapes the competition he/she entered, that person receives a "medal of dishonor" from administration. If you enter the competition, you must be determined to finish your entry and submit it before the deadline, you don't just enlist because there are free slots.

[Maska322]

Nah... Events are for fun, not for wining!

[SLAwww]

Of course. What I meant to say, events are NOT for joining and leaving them instantly.

[PikaCommando]

Originally Posted by SLAwww

Of course. What I meant to say, events are NOT for joining and leaving them instantly.

No idea how you got the idea that I, the mantastic PikaCommando, will commit desertion, but I'm sure that not having the map ready by deadline does not count as pussying out.

[Maska322]

Man, you have time to december, when I made a 2 hour gameplay map in 1 month!

[PikaCommando]

Originally Posted by Maska322

Man, you have time to december, when I made a 2 hour gameplay map in 1 month!

I'll have you know that I still have no idea how to insert a conus primitive into the viewport.

[Louva-Deus]

Anyone needing extra help with Serious Editor should join our IRC channel and hang out there. We are starting up our Serious Editor Workshops again very soon to help as well. These are live-streamed events.

[OriginalNickname]

good luck to all, maska322 rakanishu mischevious and all

[Dankzaii]

Spazmidt/Dankzaii has joined the game.

Count me in fellas, gonna make this baby for Serious Sam 3: BFE.

#doingitforpfandseriouszoneandmexicowtfamitheonlys erioussammexicanmapper

EDIT: SLAwww can I remake an asset I made before in the past? if you wish I can send you a PM with the details so you can evaluate if I can remake it or not, I no longer have any of the files but I am just curious if its valid to remake it.

EDIT: Is it okay if I make it single player only? or am I actually forced to make it work on multiplayer too?

[PikaCommando]

Originally Posted by Dankzaii

Spazmidt/Dankzaii has joined the game.

Count me in fellas, gonna make this baby for Serious Sam 3: BFE.

#doingitforpfandseriouszoneandmexicowtfamitheonlys erioussammexicanmapper

EDIT: SLAwww can I remake an asset I made before in the past? if you wish I can send you a PM with the details so you can evaluate if I can remake it or not, I no longer have any of the files but I am just curious if its valid to remake it.

EDIT: Is it okay if I make it single player only? or am I actually forced to make it work on multiplayer too?

According to these 3 rules,
-The map should take more than 15 minutes to play through on Normal difficulty;
-The development process should be completely secret: no screenshots, no information published about your map until the contest is over;
-Maps that were in development before the contest started are not accepted;

I guess it means it must be singleplayer only and maps that you have already started working on is unaccepted. So yeah, you need to start from scratch even if same idea.

[SLAwww]

Dankzaii, okay, I added you to the list.
And yes you can remake an asset from scratch. The map can be either just singleplayer or singleplayer+coop, it doesn't really matter because the evaluation will be done in singleplayer mode.

[Dankzaii]

Ah thank you SLAwww, but before continuing making progress, is it alright if I take music or resources like textures and such from other games (eg Sam HD to Sam 3) to the use on my map as long as I bundle them all in my .gro?

[SLAwww]

It's alright to use any textures, music, models or other assets if you were not working on them before. But be warned that more original resources will grant you a better chance of winning.

[Rakanishu]

I finally won't partcipate to this, I don't have time enough, sorry

[PikaCommando]

Originally Posted by Rakanishu

I finally won't partcipate to this, I don't have time enough, sorry

Teach me your tricks now that you're not in anymore.

[Jetroid]

He doesn't have time.

[OriginalNickname]

so sad

[Louva-Deus]

Originally Posted by Rakanishu

I finally won't partcipate to this, I don't have time enough, sorry

Traitor...

[PikaCommando]

Are copyrighted materials allowed?

[Dankzaii]

Originally Posted by SLAwww

It's alright to use any textures, music, models or other assets if you were not working on them before. But be warned that more original resources will grant you a better chance of winning.

I'd say yes, some custom maps in most games use copyrighted songs

[Louva-Deus]

As long as you can prove that you have a legal right to do so and credit the authors appropriately.

[PikaCommando]

Originally Posted by Louva-Deus

As long as you can prove that you have a legal right to do so and credit the authors appropriately.

Crediting the author is no problem, but is "I have 110% confidence that they won't even know it existed" a provable legal right?

[Louva-Deus]

No. Unless an author has stated somewhere, publicly, that you can freely use their stuff, you have to ask them for permission to do so. That's how copyright law works.

[Solais]

Well, these are fan creations not sold for money, so it doesn't really matter.

[SLAwww]

Isn't there a presumption of innocence? You can't accuse a person of copyright infringement until the copyright owner complains.
If you have a permission to use a song or any other resource, you don't have to prove it. However, someone might just ask the author so you'd better have that permission.

[Solais]

Really, LD, we don't really run by those old rules anymore. Look at mods like Serious Fantasy: Legends. That wouldn't have been possible if not for using copyrighted materials. And most companies are fine with it, unless it is used for money. (There was a list somewhere about companies that officially whitelisted ripped content to be used in mods.)