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Old 05-20-2001, 07:47 PM   #1   Add To Ignore List  
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Am doing a nice looking single player/ctf map which will be mostly outdoors. Am looking for a little feedback with regards to my fog. I took two pics each with a different color fog. What fog do you guys think looks/fits the mood better?

http://home.adelphia.net/~nuke/Misc/FogWhite.jpg

http://home.adelphia.net/~nuke/Misc/FogYellow.jpg

Also gimme any other type of comments in regard to the map.
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Old 05-20-2001, 08:00 PM   #2   Add To Ignore List  
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What type of mood are you going for?  Yellow seems more creepy like a zombie movie.  White seems more like a surreal sherlock tension thing.
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Old 05-20-2001, 08:04 PM   #3   Add To Ignore List  
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What am doing is a outdoor gloomy swamp map. So I am going for a dark and gloomy kinda atmosphere.
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Old 05-20-2001, 08:28 PM   #4   Add To Ignore List  
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Try some green fog.
I'd also turn down the main light some to give the fog more of the quality your trying to get.
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white all the way
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Old 05-20-2001, 08:36 PM   #6   Add To Ignore List  
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Go with the white. It fits the scenery better
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Old 05-20-2001, 08:54 PM   #7   Add To Ignore List  
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Yeah the white is right, looks more realistic and blends better with almost anything, than colored fogs and if ya have water areas, try hazing them, it adds a nice touch to a swampy mood.

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Old 05-20-2001, 10:07 PM   #8   Add To Ignore List  
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Yeah the white is right, looks more realistic and blends better with almost anything, than colored fogs and if ya have water areas, try hazing them, it adds a nice touch to a swampy mood.
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You mean haze under the water correct? If so then there is no point because the water is only a foot deep.
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I think if the scenery had more of a bluish overall color rather than a green, go with the white (or add a tiny bit of blue/green even), but I think the yellow makes more of a spooky setting with the current terrain and wood colors. White fog would look well with darker dead wood, and a grayish ground/water. The yellow is a good combination for green and brown though.

Of course, you may find a middle ground that looks just as good.
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Old 05-21-2001, 09:02 PM   #10   Add To Ignore List  
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Am prolly gonna play with the water to make it less green. But its kinda tough making dirty swamp water........what the hell color is dirty swamp water suppose to be heh
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I'd say clear and brown with a reddish tinge since the pH value is quite low (not much microbes?). Then again, I've never actually paid any attention to the color of water in the swamps
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Some of the coolest spooky swamps have more of a gray ash color to them, with the little bit of brown. Though, this would make your level seem more monochromatic. Dunno if you want that effect.

I still say the yellow looks pretty spooky.
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Ive, pH has nothing to do with color.

If you were a nerd like me, you'd know that pH is a measure of the concentration of H+ (or hydronium, H30+, essentially same thing) ions in a given solution, using the formula -log([H+]). The lower the pH, the more acidic the solution is, the higher the pH, the more basic the solution. And it's hard to tell the difference from acid and water and base, so that's why some chemist invented indicators.
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I know I shouldn't be doing this..
Chrono: Maybe not directly, but since polluted waters have rather clear water because of lack of algae and such, I'd think having low pH has a bit of the same effect. And if the decaying plants give some of their brown/red color to the water, they have greater impact on the color than living micro-organisms... Then again, it's been years since my last biology (and chemistry) lesson Yes, I know there are bacteria and algae that can easily live in swamp water.
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An arbitrary value of pH has absolutely no effect on color. It's the polluting elements, not the pH value, that has the color effect.

I really don't understand half of what you're saying...
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I meant that both pollutants and pH define (at least for some part) which bacteria and other organisms can survive in an environment and it's the biological components that give swamp water its colour. Therefore pH has an impact over water colour in nature.

This seems to have gotten a bit off-topic
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Yes, both statements are true.

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