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Old 11-07-2002, 05:59 PM   #1   Add To Ignore List  
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saw this on Slashdot. ADV films has announced they're working on an anime only cable channel:

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chances are it'll mostly be dubs. **** that.
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It sounds realyl cool. I just hope they bring to the UK
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chances are, they're playlist will be extremely limited to dragon ball z, princess mononoke and akira all day, all night.

sure right now they promise to bring more of the lesser known anime to the top, but as all television channels they will stick with what works and add very small amounts of 'chance' material into the mix. if the chance material works, they'll over-expose that until it dies, as do all channels.
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My thoughts: when does this start?
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I have a feeling they'll be playing better stuff, just dubbed :/

BGC, those retarded kiddie shows, Slayers, maybe even SMJ. I loathe dubs though.
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So what's some good anime to keep an eye out for when this is channel is released? I've only ever watched a couple anime movies (Ninja Scroll, Vampire Hunter D), but never really any anime shows. Are there any good ones on right now (Cartoon Network's Adult Swim?) that are worth watching?
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everything on adult swim is worth watching.

i can even do meatwad's voice (the ball of meat from aqua teen hungar force.)

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I think I've got Adult Swim a couple of Saturday nights, and enjoyed the shows for the most part.
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everything on adult swim is worth watching.

i can even do meatwad's voice (the ball of meat from aqua teen hungar force.)

"let's take the meat bridge!"
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I'm not sure I would really classify shows like Aqua Teen and Home Movies as 'anime'... they're certainly funny though.
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hopefully they'll have a special for FLCL on it.... it'd be a nice opener right when the whole series gets officially subtitled
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Cool that you guys finally get your anime channel. I like regular cartoons myself. Anime is just too - weird.
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Someone go watch Goldenboy, THATS good anime you'll never see on TV. Or how about Excel Saga? Furi Kuri (FLCL) is ok, I didn't get into it for some reason. Mainly because I got the 1st manga and Dual Translations wouldn't let me DL the rest. stupid servers always full. Anyway, I looked at Cartoon Networks lineup for the next while and basically the only good Anime I noticed was Cowboy Bebop (Good choice, cept the dubs are ASS), and Gundam (which still doesn't rand too high). I believe Slayers also plays at some point on some channel but it is also dubbed, and I've heard those dubs and attempted to rip my ears off.

Bottom line: Dubs are not only inaccurate, messy and generally crap, but they always have to cut SOMETHING out. I'm not sure about Cowboy Bebop but even late on Action chan I saw a Dub of BGC torn to shreds. Look at what happened to Escaflowne. WHAT A LOAD OF CRAP. The only way to gain real support is to try to follow some guidelines:

- Don't show all those damn kids shows.
- Don't play Dubs. Subs are better in any case.
- Don't cut ANYTHING. NOTHING.
- Show VARIETY.
- Show NEWER shows (Hellsing, FMP, something recently released)

If it means splitting it into a kiddie chan and an adults chan, it might be for the better.

I know very few people here will support my opinion, but I've been addicted to anime for over 4 years now. I have standards. Most companies have taken it a step to far. This will put it over the edge. Anime is getting to be looked upon by the general public as a happy-kiddie addictive money-sucking thing. Its not, it's the opposite in truth, its the americanized anime that has that effect.

I went on the offensive on this subject when I saw 3 18 year olds (about 22 now) walk into the card/gaming store up the street and buy $300 each of Pokemon crap. Its ****ing ridiculous how easily people get dragged into this crap.

I also get a lot on the argument of "Card Captor Sakura is a kiddie show but plenty of older people in Japan like it, why should older western people not be allowed to get sucked in?". To debunk this early, THIS is the reason shows like CCS are so popular in Japan:

Card Captor Sakura : Shinobu
Card Captor Sakura : %92%BC%93%B9%8A%D9_%82%B3%82%E6%82%C8%82%E7%91%AC% 8B%85%89%A4_
Card Captor Sakura : 3 Sakura
Card Captor Sakura : akazukin gitsugidan
Card Captor Sakura : akkan-bi project
Card Captor Sakura : am4
Card Captor Sakura : anal angel ( speed ball king )
Card Captor Sakura : anataro
Card Captor Sakura : anti-millenium project
Card Captor Sakura : applicot collection
Card Captor Sakura : berrying
Card Captor Sakura : check it!
Card Captor Sakura : cherry
Card Captor Sakura : clanke
Card Captor Sakura : crasy for your love!
Card Captor Sakura : first period gym class
Card Captor Sakura : funeral
Card Captor Sakura : gambler club sakura
Card Captor Sakura : genkikko
Card Captor Sakura : go!
Card Captor Sakura : gokku 59
Card Captor Sakura : gokuraku wonderland
Card Captor Sakura : hotel california
Card Captor Sakura : kagaku
Card Captor Sakura : koi-gokoro
Card Captor Sakura : kyapi
Card Captor Sakura : lolita spirits
Card Captor Sakura : meido
Card Captor Sakura : men in bazooka
Card Captor Sakura : milky
Card Captor Sakura : minutes-nine
Card Captor Sakura : mirai
Card Captor Sakura : misao only
Card Captor Sakura : misao
Card Captor Sakura : miss sail-r
Card Captor Sakura : motazarisiwa
Card Captor Sakura : mousou
Card Captor Sakura : naisyo
Card Captor Sakura : naori
Card Captor Sakura : pet no lee
Card Captor Sakura : petit lovers
Card Captor Sakura : please teach me
Card Captor Sakura : potato smasher 13
Card Captor Sakura : red
Card Captor Sakura : remix
Card Captor Sakura : sakura
Card Captor Sakura : free
Card Captor Sakura : sakura-hentai
Card Captor Sakura : sakura no erohon
Card Captor Sakura : sakurachang
Card Captor Sakura : sakuratu
Card Captor Sakura : seiten
Card Captor Sakura : sewwt system
Card Captor Sakura : sokkyuou nectar
Card Captor Sakura : stale world
Card Captor Sakura : stale
Card Captor Sakura : tabichika
Card Captor Sakura : temptation
Card Captor Sakura : u
Card Captor Sakura : underground
Card Captor Sakura : unknown I
Card Captor Sakura : unknown II
Card Captor Sakura : welcoming morning

Those are all CCS H Manga. THATS why CCS is popular among the older "PERVERTED" crowd. Same applies to all those other kids shows. Its disgusting but true.

Addition: Also, if you look at the rise of new anime in the past 2 years (from 20 new in 2000 to 35 new in 2002 so far) you'll see that most of the new anime is more orientated towards the echii side of things (pervert). Look at Chobits or Mahoromatic. 'Nough said.
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Old 11-08-2002, 12:56 AM   #15   Add To Ignore List  
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I'm not sure I would really classify shows like Aqua Teen and Home Movies as 'anime'... they're certainly funny though.
i never said they were, they certainly are not anime in the least.

murtle just jumped to adult swim asking if anything worth watching is on there, so i mentioned my l33t skill of meat-wad-voice-age.
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Since ADV is running it, you can be pretty sure a lot of the shows they put out will be on there. Evangelion, Bubblegum Crisis 2040, Robotech, etc.

BTW, I found the dubs of Evangelion and Bubblegum Crisis fairly good. I prefer not to read subtitles. If I wanted to read I'd pick up a novel. Until I learn Japanese (not gonna happen), I'll resort to subs if the dubs really really suck or if dubs aren't available.
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what mailman means to say, since adv is running it you can be pretty sure 90% of the shows will be those which they put out.

you know it, babe.
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so in other words, 1 good show*.
















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Evangelion dubs good?

thats a laugh.
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well on the subject of anime.... can anyone help me find the legend of Basara subs
I can only find dubs for vhs (no dvd player)
and I aint watching that show with dubs.... something tells me the main character will either be squeaky annoying or an american teenager

and fist of the north stars dubs sucked... but fotns didnt exactly enthrall me story wise and script wise anyways
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If they show the Tenchi Muyo dubb then im happy

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I really hope they show Vandread. Its serious yet humorous at the same time!
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chances are, they're playlist will be extremely limited to dragon ball z, princess mononoke and akira all day, all night.

sure right now they promise to bring more of the lesser known anime to the top, but as all television channels they will stick with what works and add very small amounts of 'chance' material into the mix. if the chance material works, they'll over-expose that until it dies, as do all channels.
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Ditto... AMericans think Anime = Dragonball + Gundum ...
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BTW, BurnHavoc.. Isnt Sakura like 12 y/o on the show!?
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I dont consider Dragonball Z anime.... and even tho I like it dragonball fits more in the saturday morning cartoon bracket for me

what I'd like to see on there is some real obscure or really old-skool shit
and no pokemon
god damn no pokemon
Here's lists that I'd look forward too (shows only).....
Tenchi Muyo
Speed Racer (actually it is an anime trust me)
Legend of Basara
Trigun
FLCL (well it's not exactly a show but they should show OVAs as specials)
Fist of The North Star (always thought it was kinda funny)
cowboy Bebop
Ranma 1/2

I cant think of anymore but there is a bunch I havent seen so add all those I like to try new things
btw I refused to watch Evangelion until the hype went down...... and it has yet to reside....
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