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Old 04-27-2005, 10:05 AM   #1   Add To Ignore List  
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Default Airbus A380 makes maiden flight.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...0_first_flight

(and watch the video available on that page. Link is just below the small picture)

Man, that thing is huge!

However, all feelings of "how the hell does that thing get off ground?" aside, I really fail to see how all that research expense is going to pay off in the long run. A plane that can carry 840 passengers? Sure, there might be a few markets where it would be profitable, but overall? I don't know. 154 pre-orders doesn't sound like a whole lot to me considering the billions invested in this monster. I guess Airbus figures it must be a profitable venture and knows what they are doing - they're obviously smarter than I am. I can barely get a paper airplane to fly sometimes.
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i dont think there will be that much profit from this type of mammoth plane. they can really only go to major hub airports which have the facilities to handle the size of the aircraft. and just imagine airports having to handle the amount of people on one of those things when it comes in.
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That's amazing that 50,000 people showed up to watch it take off.

The A380 isn't that much larger than a 747-400 (about 15m more wingspan and 2m longer). It just has an upper deck that goes the full length of the fuselage. The point to the A380 is that it costs 20% less per passenger to fly than the 747.
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The plane probably exists as much to challenge Boeing as much as it does to make money. "Look, we have a plane bigger than the 747!"
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it's unfair business practice. the US government does not subsidize Boeing, but the french government does for Airbus allowing them to sell under the manufactured price. but france will always claim that america is trying to undercut thier products. they make great aircraft but **** them.
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Thats one sexy hunky plane
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it's unfair business practice. the US government does not subsidize Boeing, but the french government does for Airbus allowing them to sell under the manufactured price. but france will always claim that america is trying to undercut thier products. they make great aircraft but **** them.
I hear what you're saying, and I agree with you in principle. (and for the record, more than just France subsidizes Airbus. I believe it's more than 10 different European countries).

But i can understand the reasoning behind the European Union getting behind Airbus. What you call a subsidy, they call economic stimulation. In a nutshell it creates well paying jobs for all levels of society, and the government gets back their investment indirectly thru taxes and other economic advantages.

I'm no economics major, but at least that's what I gather.

It's one of those things you Americans like to say under your breath - socialism *gasp*

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it's unfair business practice. the US government does not subsidize Boeing, but the french government does for Airbus allowing them to sell under the manufactured price. but france will always claim that america is trying to undercut thier products. they make great aircraft but **** them.
You mean all those overpriced weapons platforms Boeing makes isn't the equivalent of subsidies?
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You mean all those overpriced weapons platforms Boeing makes isn't the equivalent of subsidies?
No, that's called open-market competition. Boeing has to compete with Grummen, Lockheed-Martin, and whatever company makes the Harrier for business -- often at a slim margin of profit. It's about who bids lowest with the most value.

Where they make up the difference is in spare parts. That's where the $100 wheel bearings and $40 light bulbs come in.
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I hear what you're saying, and I agree with you in principle. (and for the record, more than just France subsidizes Airbus. I believe it's more than 10 different European countries).


From what I gathered earlier from a newclip I watched, it is France, Germany, Spain and the UK.
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From what I gathered earlier from a newclip I watched, it is France, Germany, Spain and the UK.
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Maybe 10 was the number of countries that were involved in the making of this specific airliner.

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I think what I would like to know is how long does it take to load one of those babies up? I mean, really, unless they can hook two jetways up to it, getting 800-some odd people in and out is going to take quite some time.
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I am excited to see one. the long flight home will be a lot more relaxing when you have your own cabin and bed to sleep in, and a bar to have a couple of drinks. who wants to spend 15 hours in a seat?
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It's one of those things you Americans like to say under your breath - socialism
i've never said it under my breath. france is dominated by socialists, no big surprise there.


although i can agree woth the "stimulation" of one's economy, favoring one business over another is not the way to go. when you're the only hatter in town, you have no real incentive to ensure quality.
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I think what I would like to know is how long does it take to load one of those babies up? I mean, really, unless they can hook two jetways up to it, getting 800-some odd people in and out is going to take quite some time.
They were saying on a newclip earlier they were probably going to limit passengers to around 550 or so. But that puppy will have lots of luxuries on board. What they have planned for them, looks like a small version of a luxury liner inside. Pretty cool.
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it's also a hijacker's wet dream.
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Why you blaming France etc for giving them the subsidies, it's the same as blaming the US for not giving Boeing subsidies.
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