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Old 11-03-2016, 10:00 PM   #1   Add To Ignore List  
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Default Have there been any points in main Serious Sam games where you've had ammo problems?

By that I don't mean that you run out of ammo for one weapon. I mean situations where ammo supplies have gone so low that you're having serious difficulties in advancing the game. If not, what are the situations where it has gotten close to these situations?
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I'm a really ammo conservative player and a pretty good shot, so I almost never run into ammo problems in Serious Sam games. Except... Legend of the Goddamn Beast.

You get so little ammo and replenishment items it's a joke. The difficulty comes from not being able to recuperate from taking damage or missing shots instead of the actual fights, if you take a chunk of damage or waste too much ammo you might as well reload. It also mostly has uninspired and bland enemy scripting, with the most enemies you usually fight at once is a dozen. It's like Croteam gave the levels to a new employee and told this person to script it without any guidance or direction, and LotB is basically wasted potential and it makes me sad.
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LotB DLC, and Sam 3 in general
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What he said.

Though I don't exactly think that LotB actually got bad enemy scripting. It's actually quite good. The problem is with the usage of enemy types imo. When I "fixed" them in SSHDX, all it took was to change the enemy types, maybe number at some point, and the battles became a whole lot better.
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SS3 lacks ammo for the weapons you WANT to use, like the cannon and Devastator. I find myself with far too much shotgun for assault ammo for most of the game. (which is useless against armored enemies)

I do agree with Discy for legend of the Beast DLC, to be totally honest. It felt like one of one of "RatBoy"'s maps only not as good.
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I've never had any ammo problems in any Serious Sam game, the pickups are pretty generous, especially shotgun ammo, it's all over the place.
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So shotgun might as well have infinite ammo and you wouldn't notice the difference?
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You would notice. Even if you get a metric shit-ton of ammo you still know it's finite in the back of your mind, and you'll at least keep in mind to keep track of how much ammo you found/used. If you have infinite ammo you'll throw all caution to the wind.
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Legend of the Beast is the only SS campaign I rage quit. I turned on God mode and no clipped to the final (crappy) boss.
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Can't really add anything to the words that gentlemen above me said. LotB and Sam3 are the only games I remember having weird ammo problems. Just like Cap said, it's usually the situations when you don't get the ammo for the weapons you really want to use, yet at the same time you have a lot of pickups for something that you don't really need. I always felt the lack of ammo for tommygun in LotB for example.
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Nope. All the games have plenty of ammo. Never run out of ammo.
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Interestingly, if I edit the levels from the First and Second Encounter so that all the possible enemies in serious difficulty would appear in every difficulty, I still have enough ammo to get me through the game, when playing on normal or hard difficulty. There are only a few places where I need to be careful.
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So shotgun might as well have infinite ammo and you wouldn't notice the difference?
I'm making sure that I get close to the enemy to get most if not all the pellets to hit, if the ammo was infinite I'd just spam the weapon from a distance and use it much less efficiently
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I don't have ammo problem in Lotb since the Revolvers are handy enough and most of the enemies are Beheadeds, but CT must be mad to make the first 3 levels in the game so damn difficult. Arachnoids in the first level? No wonder they were cut. Although, level design-wise, they're pretty cool. I like how you start out in the city area instead of temples and tombs like in TFE. But yeah, Tommy Gun ammo is quite low in Lotb.

But SS3/Jotn on the other hand is a whole new beast. Luckily there's enough Shells and AR ammo everywhere in addition to Rocket/C4 crates, but there's just not enough ammo for Minigun, Cannon, and Devastator in SS3. It makes the game a lot more tedious because now enemies take longer to kill. Fuck that piece of shit SS3.
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