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Old 04-22-2018, 04:01 PM   #61   Add To Ignore List  
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Why do people keep saying that Sam4 graphics look outdated? B|
Because the teaser trailer makes it look exactly like how Sam 3 & HD looks (More like Sam 3 though)

Which, if you like Sam 3, that's fine, but if you disliked Sam3's graphics/color schemes/etc, you know..
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Librin needs to get his eyes examined.
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I think it looks completely different from SS3. The colors and edges are a lot softer than SS3 and Talos. Kinda like this:

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I hope its more like the HD series.
Open world ruined one of my favorite franchises: Mafia
Mafia 3 just got everything wrong, what was good about the Mafia series. A tight nit, character integrated, small, immersive, great story.
Its the only series I actually preferred the cutscenes to stay in the game. And having a character that you could, like, get into fist fights that were realistic-y, made you more invested in the character in the game, and made it so not only the world was immersive, but the character was immersive and you actually cared about the character.
IMO, open world games (and a lot of closed world too) make a generic character, like a Bad Ass (pun), just a generic person, and there is really no user interaction with the character except you are playing them, or looking through the eyes of them. I hope CT makes Sam more immersive, and not like in the past. That would really tie the game and the character together, especially if they have a great story to go along with it (the much touted writer for Talos).
Having Great: Story. Character (FAR beyond what we have always gotten, let us play the character, and not just 'play another character like always'). World(s)/maps. = a game I would play over and over and over. Like Mafia II (mafia 3 sucked, as a Mafia game. It was an ok open world gta style game), or SS 1/2
I hope they return to just making a FUN game, and not overthink it.
Or, make everything as immersive as possible, which would make the game fun, even if gunplay was not the main focus of the game (but then it wouldnt be a SS game, hmmm. Heh).

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I think it looks completely different from SS3. The colors and edges are a lot softer than SS3 and Talos. Kinda like this:
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It still kinda has that trademark Serious Engine aesthetic. Can't quite grasp what it is exactly but the way it looks right now is kinda like a mod for Sam3
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So I can finally fap to this.
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IDK... to me the Sam series was always about Michael Bay'ing things up and adding gratuitous ventilation to everything else, not about stopping in my tracks every ten bloody seconds to look at INDIVIDUAL FUCKING PIXELS all the bloody time
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Don't know if this is right place to mention this... anyways, with shotgun or several other kinds of weapons, upon shooting at "flesh" organisms, should have different (random) blood splash. Like shooting certain areas of the body would just drip blood (abdominal?) while others would do "water balloon" (head?). But, I guess Corteam already started programming repetitive blood splashes so they won't go back to adjust those by now (let alone several other long time requests).

I don't understand what's the complaint with "open area"? I am sure it's just a advertisements trailer (which may not even be actual game fugitive). OTOH, some of the previous SS games have "open areas", whats the different? Maybe I am misunderstanding something?

Lastly (but not the least), it should be HD without question. We are in HD era (not 4K), so all games from hereon should be in HD (until whatever "new" graphic arise in the future).

That trailer is too short to tell what the game might look like, if at any. Although it's a nice trailer.

The concern right now probably should be what would the system requirements might look like. Pascal card? How many CPU cores would it actually use (6/8 cores by now?) or require? MANY people already stuck with Broadwell and Haswell (which should be fine?), even on with AMD Ryzen step up.
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The solution: Enemies should make more blood
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Lastly (but not the least), it should be HD without question. We are in HD era (not 4K), so all games from hereon should be in HD (until whatever "new" graphic arise in the future).
Pfff, 8K gaming or gtfo...

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The solution: Enemies should make more blood
And better blood spill effect. The one used in HD was times better than the one used in SS3. Excluding the effect scaling, when you shoot bigger enemies like Highlander Bride. Then both effects are equally silly and hilarious.
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I agree about the improved blood and explosion effects.
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The solution: Enemies should make more blood
Two words: Anime blood.
(explanation: everyone has blood pressure so high that upon injury, some five meter long jet of blood shoots out of the wound)
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Fuck it, you know the blood wave scene from The Shining? Have that much blood come out of every enemy that is killed.
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If Croteam just does the exact opposite of what this guy wants, SS4 will probably be fantastic.
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It's not just the ammount of blood, is also about the gibs and how blood and gibs are behaving - trajectory depending on the angle of impact, force of the impact and etc...

Quake 2 Max & Quake 2 Evolved were good in portraying this. The original Painkiller was pretty satisfying in that matter too.
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If Croteam just does the exact opposite of what this guy wants, SS4 will probably be fantastic.
We'll see.. I just want something new and fresh, if they're doing the same thing as Sam 3 I'm not very interested :/
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We just don't want another Skyrim or Far Cry
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If its another sam 3, not interested.
If its an HD, then VERY interested (sam 3 just didnt have that ss1 and 2, I know it wasnt 2 but you know which one I mean, but the HD remakes were perfect). If they are closer to the original games, it wil rock. If it is just another ss3 with mele, meh.
But, you know we will all get it no matter what.
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Well Serious Sam 3 has these stupid cloned soldiers which I HATE SO MUCH. I want to dodge enemy projectiles. No cover, all man!
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Keep melee attacks, they're fine. If you don't like them then don't use them.
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Make finishers like in Doom, they were neat and shown aliens' meat!
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Keep melee attacks, they're fine. If you don't like them then don't use them.
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Personally for me SS3's melee attacks felt much more natural part of the gameplay compared to DNF finishers.
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At last! This is great news! I can't wait till this comes out and we get to party with Sam once more.
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At last! This is great news! I can't wait till this comes out and we get to party with Sam once more.
Glad you're excited for Sam 4 as well.

Back in 2014, I thought it would be set in France. And here we are, it will be set there for one of the locations of SS4. I looked closely at a sign that was in French, and that's how I could tell.

This is a prequel of BFE, but don't worry. I hear that in the future, Croteam will begin work in SS2R, a replacement of the original Serious Sam 2, which is non-canon at this moment.
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What if after SS4 CT make continuation of SS3? After all SS3 was a reboot for the series and some things doesn't match in the current state of the franchise - the look of the time-lock, the end arsenal of Sam from SS3 with the starting arsenal from FE, even some minor background information like in FE we leaned that Sam was chosen to walk through the Time-Lock and the Time-Lock was able to send just a single person back in time, and in BFE we learned that the Earth Gov is preparing to send whole squad, and Sam had nothing to do with that, and aproaching and entering the Time-Lock was his personal descision, because there was no Gov at this time...
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What if after SS4 CT make continuation of SS3? After all SS3 was a reboot for the series and some things doesn't match in the current state of the franchise - the look of the time-lock, the end arsenal of Sam from SS3 with the starting arsenal from FE, even some minor background information like in FE we leaned that Sam was chosen to walk through the Time-Lock and the Time-Lock was able to send just a single person back in time, and in BFE we learned that the Earth Gov is preparing to send whole squad, and Sam had nothing to do with that, and aproaching and entering the Time-Lock was his personal descision, because there was no Gov at this time...
SS3 was not a reboot of the series. It was a prequel. The inconsistencies you mention are simple retcons. That tends to happen when a series moves backwards in time rather than forward.
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I remember that we discussed something about that with Louva, may be I got it wrong...
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They have and will continue to retcon the story. The remasters will have even more changes.
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"Remasters"? You mean the HD versions? How they will change them? Via regular updates? Or they are planning completely new remakes? When to expect that (no matter update or new remake)? Will they affect the ordinary HD editions, or only the Fusion Hub ones?
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