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Old 06-19-2009, 11:15 AM   #1   Add To Ignore List  
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Default Worms 2: Armageddon

Too bad it's only on Xbox Arcade.

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It's also on the PC for a long time.
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No, it's not. Check the video.

Also, why did they title it so poorly? Should have been Worms Armageddon 2.
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It seems to be only the video title Gimli.
The game is still the title you said.
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I'm surprised they're still working with Worms.

That game seems like a direct port of the PSP/DS version of Worms: Open Warfare 2 with more stuff added to it; no doubt it'll eventually appear on PSP/DS as well.

What I don't get is why the hell won't they release PC versions of those games...there'd be a lot bigger playerbase right there, especially if they add support for usermade maps and such. Yet all the new 2D Worms games, they're always for PSP/DS and Xbox Live Arcade, and the same complaints continue.
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dude, why would any1 want 2 play this on pc lol 2d grafix sucks lolol
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Oh great he's stuck in " 'net n00b" mode
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He's right though. A full-priced Worms game in 2D on the PC would fail miserably. Too many kids who only care about graphics.

And i doubt you'd get the devs to do a low-price version that supports custom maps (and put it on Steam?).
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Sure, why not if the Xbox Live Arcade version is so cheap too? It's not like you can't have anything but full price versions on PC you know.

I bet it'd sell like there's no tomorrow if it ever came on Steam. Steam has literally hundreds of popular 2D/indie games, and Worms would kick their asses.
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Although I'm not keeping my hopes up, it could happen one day that 2D makes a return to the industry if one developer/publisher makes a very fun & successful side-scroller that looks gorgeous in addition (Just because a game is 2D doesn't mean it can't benefit from stuff like bloom, HDR, HD content or dynamic lighting.).
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****ing X-Box, this is a great game, although close to the PSP game Open warfare, I see alot of Armageddon things in there that I love and enjoy..

I want it, but I can't have it. Grrr.

I'll have to live with the PC version that I still own.
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Although I'm not keeping my hopes up, it could happen one day that 2D makes a return to the industry if one developer/publisher makes a very fun & successful side-scroller that looks gorgeous in addition
It already has.
Well.....ok only Nintendo has made 2D games as of late.
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2D doesn't need a "return to the industry", it's already there. Just check Steam. People do play all those games. And the 2D games' success on Xbox Live Arcade proves that as well.

Worms for 9 buxorz on PC = fans happy, devs happy, Steam happy, everyone happy.
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2D games with graphics done in this day and age are a nice stray away from the stuff we get now.

Surprise, surprise! I do actually get bored of the same-old-same-old graphics that try to go the "uber realism" route
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2D doesn't need a "return to the industry", it's already there. Just check Steam. People do play all those games.
Numbers please.
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Numbers please.
At the moment I'm checking, Plants Vs Zombies is the 15th most played game on Steam with 1684 people playing?

Then there's Peggle Deluxe further down the list with 144 players. And really, if you take a look at the stats, I don't really think that many people care about uber quality graphics. The old Counter Strike is second on the list most of the time, not to mention Football Managers, Morrowind, Mount & Blade, Opposing Force, Day of Defeat, other indie games (Defense Grid: The Awakening and Audiosurf come to mind), none of which have especially good graphics.

And still I think Worms would be pretty damn popular if it came on PC. I don't see what's the problem if it's doing well on other platforms, and PC is where it originally came from (and has the most people anticipating it), especially if the price is low and the game offers much more content than other 2D games (which it clearly does).

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Those are tiny numbers. It is true that people play those games as you said, but the numbers are still microscopic compared to many of the commercially successful (3D) games of today.

But I agree about Worms, we'd probably see very good numbers if a new 2D Worms game was released for PC. The series are that great really.
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Yes, and gotta add that Worms is one of the few games which truly do work better in 2D than 3D.
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lol, i like the armageddon part.

2d games are still here, i'm still wondering if they use the technique, where 2d sprites are made to look like 3d...2d/3d?

either way, i play 2d games i love them,they're simple and easy on the computer.

plus there's a lot of 2d mmo's.

what i don't get is why does a 2d cost the same as a full on graphic 3d game...so as always i stay in the open-source area,lol.
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either way, i play 2d games i love them,they're simple and easy on the computer.
That depends entirely on how good the graphics are, size of the world, dynamics, etc. Just like with 3D games.

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what i don't get is why does a 2d cost the same as a full on graphic 3d game...
Why shouldn't they? A modern, properly done 2D game would be hours of length, use all the latest graphics technologies, and so on. A modern 2D Worms would have high resolution content, dynamic lighting, realistic water, etc. for example.
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A modern 2D Worms would have high resolution content, dynamic lighting, realistic water, etc. for example.
Personally, i don't see dynamic lighting, realistic water and such fitting into a Worms game, but that's just me. To me the entire graphical side of the game is about having a simple cartoon-like look.
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Dynamic lighting would be great, cartoon or not, the overall lighting of a terrain (shadows, color, etc.) could be affected by the sun in the background. Though of course this wouldn't be very good for cave terrains.

As for the water, it would be more of a gimmick than anything else, I just like the look of water done right.

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It definitely doesn't have to be full priced if it's on Xbox Live Arcade...

And FYI Open Warfare (and Armageddon too) already feature very neat animated 3D backgrounds and particle effects (nearly the same as in Mayhem), so I don't see what's to complain about Looks fine by me, dynamic lightning isn't necessary as the worms need to be as noticeable as possible (fullbright), and would do more harm than good if it was implemented. Color changes, sure, but I don't like the idea of huge black areas on high terrain and such.

As for water, it already looks pretty good, it reflects underwater areas and waves/behaves smoothly, I don't see why it would need to be changed any more (and the whole "reflectivity" thing is wasted by never being able to see the surface, you only see the tip of the water at all times at a horizontal angle).

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Worms 2 had pseudo-3D water surface when one enabled the full detail view mode.
(and fyi, Worms 2 is the newest 2D Worms game I have played, so I'm not very updated about what is going on in the series on the Xbox)
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...worms 2 armageddon cost the same as regular 3d game?


didn't mean it as WTF, more like why are they priced the same as a full on blown 3-4yr long to make that 3d game...the 2d games.

cause i still don't get it, i know it takes hard work to make a game on both and all genres.

but just seems confusing to me, cause ...well just confusing.

cause wasn't like 3d the next step for gaming?

but either way i like 2d games, and marvel at the games with great graphics.
too bad we sold the xbox 360,lol.

but i still enjoy 2d games on pc.

...should've thought out this more, would have come more neat,lol.
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but just seems confusing to me, cause ...well just confusing.
You answered your own question: "i know it takes hard work to make a game on both and all genres."

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cause wasn't like 3d the next step for gaming?
Next step? Yes. Superior step? No. Just because we have 3D games does not mean 2D is "outdated", it is as ridiculous as suggesting that role playing games became outdated when the first person shooter saw the daylight.

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You answered your own question: "i know it takes hard work to make a game on both and all genres."



Next step? Yes. Superior step? No. Just because we have 3D games does not mean 2D is "outdated", it is as ridiculous as suggesting that role playing games became outdated when the first person shooter saw the daylight.
...lol, guess it was like right in my face.

and thanks for explaining me this cause, always wondered on it.
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