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Old 11-05-2014, 06:30 PM   #121   Add To Ignore List  
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It installs mal/spyware on your computer to spy on what you are doing and report it to Croteam! It seems like a gruesome idea, but illegal I think..
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Old 11-05-2014, 08:45 PM   #122   Add To Ignore List  
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this brings to mind a game whose anti-piracy system took screenshots of the pirates' activities and posted them publicly, revealing embarrassing things (like some guy who was reading a plant-based erotic novella)
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it's like SS4's DRM will investigate the activity of the Pirate's computer for a week to see what happens... and to notify Croteam what happens next.
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Guys let's please stop with destroying-a-PC-because-of-pirating-a-game thing, alright? Not gonna happen.
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Old 11-07-2014, 09:55 AM   #125   Add To Ignore List  
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It's too extreme. But a joke.
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Old 11-07-2014, 02:17 PM   #126   Add To Ignore List  
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Each shot performed will spawn kamikazes instead of shooting bullets/projectiles/beams/etc...
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Imho the latter the DRM appears, the better.


Also, read something today about a rumor, that the PC version of GTA V will have some kind of a-yet-unbreakable DRM used by FIFA 15 (Denuvo or something). Croteam should consider looking at it.

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Old 11-07-2014, 09:51 PM   #128   Add To Ignore List  
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How about each of our suggested ideas, the DRM actually changes every month or so so each person from the SZ! community comes up with an idea and it changes a month, about 12 times a year for a few years until the pirates get fed up and give up. Then after that it changes every year or something and then stays.
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That's actually a good idea.
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Old 02-28-2015, 09:57 AM   #130   Add To Ignore List  
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It doesn't matter what kind of DRM it will have. Not to me anyway.
I only play new games cracked (even if I've bought them).
But I don't really play a lot of new games so it doesn't matter.

I think developers should focus more on making a great game instead of trying to make it pirate-proof.
This crap reminds me of movie companies:

http://www.geek.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/piratedvd.jpg


100% true and same applies to games.
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Old 02-28-2015, 10:52 AM   #131   Add To Ignore List  
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Also enjoy the viruses from crack sites or within the cracks, also enjoy the lack of support and features.

Also a note: Admitting piracy is a bannable offense on this forum. This is the final warning.
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I personally don't care what do people think about piracy and legit purchases. I like buying games and supporting the devs and that's my thing. If someone likes pirating that's their problem.
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Also enjoy the viruses from crack sites or within the cracks, also enjoy the lack of support and features.

Also a note: Admitting piracy is a bannable offense on this forum. This is the final warning.
So, you had some bad experiences did you ? Interesting...
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Old 03-01-2015, 12:22 PM   #134   Add To Ignore List  
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It is pretty well known that many people, including myself, have originally learned of this series by illegal means due to unavailability in our countries. However, thanks to Steam, that's no longer an issue, so it is possible to get the games legally anywhere.
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Don't worry Solais, we never doubted you'd be a pirate.







Or have we...
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It's in the Sam stories thread, lol. (I think. Many people's are.)
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Old 03-03-2015, 07:59 PM   #137   Add To Ignore List  
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How about every time you damage an enemy, it splits into two enemies back at full health. Kleer attacks are homing and tie you up. When you cannot move Fork Parker comes on screen and gives you a lecture that he needs your money.

The lecture goes on for 3 hours and alt tab etc is disabled. The only way out is the restart/turn off the machine
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You know... that might be a good idea. The Fork Parker bit is the best part.
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Old 03-04-2015, 02:11 AM   #139   Add To Ignore List  
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The enemies will split and every time they do they reduce 5% in size, and it keeps on reducing (while they reset health) and also increse 5% damage. Eventually they will get so tiny the computer cant handle it and the game will crash.
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However, thanks to Steam, that's no longer an issue, so it is possible to get the games legally anywhere.
Tell that to Japanese owners of Far Cry 4...
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Weird that it's the Japanese who would pirate a game, considering that they live in a country where games are generally very affordable.
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This video brings a lot of good points about piracy
https://youtu.be/rfZv_lPwBFI

croteam should not look at piracy as a threat but rather as a competitor (that goes for every developer)
they should provide something appealing that the pirates can't.

This is the reason why demos should come back to games more often since there will be no reason to pirate games anymore. Its limited, sure but it is a less of a hassle to deal with and will give you a general idea what the game is going to be like.

or, they can make the pirates work in their favor to generate interest in the games they've made and increasing the chance of them succeeding in the long run.

there is nothing seriously wrong with pirating games, it just shows that people are interested in the game they just downloaded from pirate webs (I am guilty guilty of that myself), if people are not interested in your game than there will be no reason to buy or pirate a game in the first place.

For example, take a game like The Witcher 2 (love the Witcher series btw), a game that has been pirated about 4.5 million times and later was considered to be a really successful game selling over a million copies. The devs CD Projekt encouraged piracy since it is a free way of generating interest and a successful one at that.
Source:http://www.gamespot.com/articles/the.../1100-6346876/

we all know that restrictive DRM will not work in a long run for battling piracy as proven before in the past, so its better if croteam releases a fun, playable demo for SS4 like they did with their previous games.

sorry for making my post so long, just wanted to get it out of my chest, so to speak
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Croteam's DRM works, because it is not restrictive at all to any of the players but the pirates. Pirates might crack it, but that's not a problem; the DRM's job is to make sure that the game is not pirated in the first month of release, when the most sales are done.
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Piracy is a weird thing. Let's say you are a 14 year old kid and don't have money to buy a 60$ game.

a) You download it, you like it, you want more, you've become a fan, you show it to your friends. Few years later you have a job, extra money, and the sequels start coming out. Now, you could download it or buy it, the chance is 50-50 the dev will start getting your money, or money from friends who played it with you.

b) But if you didn't pirate it, maybe you would find other interests that are less expensive, maybe you would stop playing games altogether. Then the dev lost a costumer and there is 0 chance they will ever get your money.
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For me, it's definitely a). I actually keep a list for all the games I still have to pay for, and I'm slowly, but steadily working through that list.
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I met Serious Sam because of a)...
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Like me, I did, crazily before steal a 20 dollar note from mum's wallet because I couldn't afford some games. Then it got blamed on dad. Now I feel a bit guilty for doing that :/
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Weird that it's the Japanese who would pirate a game, considering that they live in a country where games are generally very affordable.
You missed the point. In Japan FC4 still isn't out, publisher keeps delaying it, without providing any concrete info when will be actually out.
So tell me again how is Steam making pirating unnecessary.
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Ah that shit. That's really not Steam's fault, but the awful local publishers who lobby against the whole thing. My region had the same with Skyrim, except some asshole local publisher didn't allow Skyrim to be bought from Steam or any other digital distribution, only in retail. Which was since lifted, because it was a effing stupid thing to do in a region where piracy is at all times high.
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There's cases when pirating can give you the superior product too. For example, I'm still playing pirated Counter-Strike for a good reason. I've bought it on Steam, so I've payed my respect to Valve, even though they were not the ones who made Counter-Strike, but even though I have the legit Counter-Strike, I still prefer playing the pirated Counter-Strike. That's because:
a) In the 2013 update when they tried to make it multi-platform, they did ruin a lot of features in the Windows version. They removed A3D and EAX, they removed surround sound, and they broke compatibility with many 3rd party mods. I'd rather play the old version from before the update, it's just better.
b) All my friends who play it also have the pirated version, I can't play with them with the legit version, and I don't have fun playing with strangers.
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