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Serious Sam 4 15 36.59%
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Old 06-12-2016, 02:34 AM   #91   Add To Ignore List  
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Nah

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I didn't remember to be so hyped for an upcoming game since Serious Sam 2...
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Why not 3?
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I don't know. Yeah, I was hyped, but I was somehow prepared for disappointment after SS2, until back in 2005 I was in the middle of my Serious Sam mania, replaying over and over the classic ones, and when I saw SS2 is coming on i just sh*t my pants up. But SS3 was successful and I'm again hyped for the next game. Maybe that's why.
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Serious Sam 4: In The Flesh
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Serious Sam 4: I Like Flesh
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1h 17m from now: https://www.twitch.tv/twitch
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Affix Rioting Gear for when Croteam doesn`t give us SS4!
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Nevermind, it's here! https://gaming.youtube.com/e3
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Serious Sam VR: The Last Hope

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2F_CZosKxig

Pretty meh about this considering we're starting to see actual games in VR, and this is more of an arcadey title. I was really hoping for a new smaller IP for a VR thing.
Starting off with the egypt stuff really made me groan.. my first thought is that this is just SS3 in VR. Seeing some other environments though they look really interesting... jungle, space, etc. New weapons like the chainsaw coming back... I'd really want to play those environments in a game.

Probably not a bad idea from a business standpoint as there's not that much VR stuff, yet. But VR in my mind is more of a "new experiences" sort of thing. So this isn't personally doing it for me from what we've seen so far

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As a Vive owner, I'm excited!
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THIS CAN'T BE HAPPENING!!

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CT just created and missed the hotest point to announce SS4. There is a lot of dissapointment just because this moment. At least they can say months before that there will be no Sam4 at E3, but another Sam title. Like this the expectations would be much more real and apropriate. And they are doing it for a second time.

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>wait for any SS4 stuff until it was kinda confirmed by Humble Bundle in 2013
>E3
>Talos
>welp, it's not SS, but it looks nice, some ppl are mad, but it's a good step for the whole company, they get moniez, they extend the community not only to to fast-shooters
>next E3
>ppl are hyped this time for SS4 af
>VR exclusive SS
>also first level shown is ofc. Egypt

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If Croteam is trolling reveal actual SS4 during the Sony conference I'll be willing to forgive them. I mean this VR bullhunky uses assets from SS3 and even Talos and graphically it doesn't look like an improvement over Talos or even SS3 in some ways. Surely it's not what they have been working on the whole time?
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They clearly stated that they worked on SS4 most of the time, this is just a side project (probably even smaller than Talos would be, as it was actual, big game). So nothing to be worried about...

Thou I'm still dissapointed about how these all levels will be missed for ppl who don't own any VR. Rail shooters on mouse are just fine, too. House of the Dead is a great example.
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But the problem is that the VR technology has you using both hands, and the game has you dual wielding awesome weapons. Sadly you can't really do that with mouse and keyboard. Maybe with a controller, but not nearly as effectively.
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ohh this has me excited. Hopefully this will show some previews of Serious Sam 4. Honestly Graphicly Serious Sam dos not need anymore, well maybe lighting. VR is just what sam needs. I think third person would be better than first though...Why not both
I hope they release on time to get those gamers hungry to buy something for their new toy.
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But the problem is that the VR technology has you using both hands, and the game has you dual wielding awesome weapons. Sadly you can't really do that with mouse and keyboard. Maybe with a controller, but not nearly as effectively.
Well, that might sound strange, but since Serious Sam 3 already has the support for multiple mouses, because of splitscreen feature...

How about using two mouses? It might be a strange idea, but welp - playable if you got used to it, I guess...

I now have an urge to try to play splitscreen on two mouses at once in SS3, just to see if that would work. xD

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Also, this.
As stated: "it's only for VR, for now".
Things might change if that much of the playerbase will still be into playing this with their mouses.

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ohh this has me excited. Hopefully this will show some previews of Serious Sam 4. Honestly Graphicly Serious Sam dos not need anymore, well maybe lighting. VR is just what sam needs. I think third person would be better than first though...Why not both
I hope they release on time to get those gamers hungry to buy something for their new toy.
The idea of VR is to get the feeling you are the player, even more than you ever were (rotating, hands, stuff). So third person would be kinda pointless in that case if you ask me, but welp - opinions, not facts.

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^ The thing with multiple mouses or using a controller (one thumbstuck per gun) is that it's still not enough to emulate what they're doing with VR. With VR, you are really tracking THREE things in space... Your left hand, your right hand, AND your head. In VR, you can stick your arms straight out to each side and fire, while moving your head around independently of either of those two motions. You can look at the enemy to your left while shooting it, while ALSO shooting an enemy to your right, without seeing it.

With a controller, you'd really just be looking straight ahead while firing guns that you can't even see what you're aiming at. Without limiting the gameplay greatly (such as enemies can only come at you in a 90 degree cone in front of you), you're really going to have to spend time on some crazy camera system to get this to feel even remotely playable on a non-VR device. The camera would need to be a crazy fisheye lens with crazy FOV, some sort of weird vertical splitscreen where each camera tracks one hand (which could be cool but -really- limits your situational awareness), or the camera just zooms out an extreme amount so you can still see what each weapon is looking at for wide shots.

When you really consider the game design / programming that would have to go into making this playable on standard hardware... you're really devaluing what they're doing, here. This sort of thing should have probably been explained on stage to show how much more interesting the idea really is.
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ohh this has me excited.
A worthless VR knockoff when everyone was expecting SS4! Yay!

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Hopefully this will show some previews of Serious Sam 4.
A worthless VR knockoff gets to be shown off at the largest video gaming event in the world and the next real SS game gets to be shown by the aforementioned knockoff! FUck logic!

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Honestly Graphicly Serious Sam dos not need anymore, well maybe lighting.
Yes, 5 year old graphics that had terrible character models and facial animations to begin with are perfectly fine. Substance over style, right?

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VR is just what sam needs.
Yeah, not a mainline entry or anything like that.

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Amazing, you're excited about a VR title yet don't understand that VR games are supposed to be in 1st person. And do you not know that real SS games allow you to toggle between 1st and 3rd person?

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I hope they release on time to get those gamers hungry to buy something for their new toy.
If Croteam spent a single nanosecond working on this abomination before completing SS4 it would have been released too early.

I am utterly appalled by what Croteam has just done. Some Croteam fans such as lostinseganet apparently have Stockholm Syndrome but how could CT possibly conceive that their sane and rational fans would be anything but enraged by this bullshit. They promised a new SS game at this year's E3. They didn't specify SS4 but OBVIOUSLY WE WERE FUCKING EXPECTING SERIOUS FUCKING SAM FUCKING FOOOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUURRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!

*heavy breathing*

Well, at least SSVR isn't SS4 according to CT's damage control on Facebook (clearly I'm not the only one who feels this way). I mean, if that was the case, I would have ripped off my skin and shed tears of blood in a fit of absolute transcendent rage.
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OK, first things first. Sam needs to be MOVING in VR. It should be on rails. Not a turret shooter. Or really have both actually. I don't see why he has to stay still the entire time.

Second, there is no way in HELL this is SS4. No way. I'm holding out for another announcement. I think they're just gonna slap us with it. "Oh and uh... BTW, a little announcement. Here's Serious Sam 4. *BOOM*" After watching all those recent interviews and this year's April Fools joke, I almost know for a fact this is not it.
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Okay, I've calmed down a bit, and I realized that this is only a fraction of the anger and betrayal that Metal Gear Solid fans must have felt in recent times. SS4 still exists and according to Solais SSVR actually aided it's development. Be grateful for what you have, it's not like Serious Sam has been reduced to pachinko machines. All Croteam did is show SSVR before SS4, this isn't Konami levels of fuckery.

Edit: CT has made it very clear that SSVR is not SS4. We just have to keep on waiting. Who knows, maybe one day we'll be able to afford VR headsets and SSVR ends up being kind of cool with one. I mean, did you see that huge colossus type enemy? It looked pretty sweet.

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Try Halo 5 if you really want a recent display of total asshattery.
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Btw, totally announcing a SS pachinko machine on next E3 instead of SS4.
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I'm fine with this. I don't own a Rift or a Vive, but I don't really care. I was getting way too overhyped for this E3 because of Serious Sam anyways, so I'm kinda thankful that this killed my hype.

I'll assume that we'll see Sam 4 later this year, at PAX or Gamescom or something.
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