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View Poll Results: What will you do if Serious Sam 3 comes with DRM like SecuROM?
I will still buy it without question. 9 22.50%
I will buy it, but I will also complain about it loudly. 8 20.00%
I won't buy it, period. I will even boycott the publisher. 5 12.50%
I will get it from The Pirate Bay, no need to worry about it then. 4 10.00%
I will still buy it, and find not-so-legal means to get it running without DRM. 14 35.00%
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Old 12-01-2008, 03:07 PM   #1   Add To Ignore List  
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Default Serious Sam 3 and DRM

This is weighing pretty heavily on my mind now because I really cannot stand for bullshit DRM malware like SecuROM infecting new installments of game franchises we all love. So I ask you this, the consumer ; Assuming that the game will turn out to be everything you could ever ask for in a Serious Sam game, what will you do if Serious Sam 3 turns out to have the likes of SecuROM and StarForce in it? Will you boycott it or will you still buy it?

Spoon, I think that the results of this poll might be something to relay to Croteam and their publishers.

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Voted - I'll still buy it.

Once the poll has a substantial amount of votes I can give a link to someone from Croteam.
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I will buy it. But I might decide to use means that are best not discussed here if the DRM will cause hellish experience like it did for me in Bioshock.
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Yeah, I added the fifth option on the poll for that.
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Ah, thanks Val. Spoon, would you be so kind to move my vote to the new poll option?
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Done and done
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Thanks man. Although the top option is still italic, this is good.
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"I will still buy it, and find not-so-legal means to get it running without DRM."
- i find this one a little odd so to speak. Why buying a game then, if what you are doing is illegal anyway?
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That is a way for the people to say that they will give financial support for the game, as long as they can do it on their terms. (DRM-free, legal or not)
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Exactly. I'll happily support the development of games, but I refuse to allow DRM to stay on my system without a fight.
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I'm not entirely decided tbh. I love Serious Sam, so i have that weighing heavily towards buying it. On the other hand, i despise SecuROM (and DRM in general, but primarily DRM that operates the way SecuROM does - ie, like malware), which has led me to skip on several games that i would have bought had it not been for SecuROM.
Of course as my PC is infected with SecuROM as it is (from SS2, Crysis beta and Spore demo. Didn't know about SecuROM on any of them, otherwise i probably would have skipped on at least the last two.), i might bite the bullet and buy SS3 even if it did have SecuROM. And then i'd probably whine about it on the forum at every opportunity i had, and in the meantime use not-so-legal means to try to get a copy that i could enjoy without the hassle and abuse that SecuROM subjects the customers to.

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Hmmm...if I find someone who owns a pirate copy, then I'd force that person to make costom content for the game so he/she'd be useful to legitimate buyers!
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How would you force said person to do that?
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How would you force said person to do that?
That's difficult. I know that the more modable the game is, the less it suffers from software piracy.
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Two words. Boycott it.
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I know that the more modable the game is, the less it suffers from software piracy.
Yeah, you're getting much more for the money if a game can be modded to hell and back.
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I'll buy it regardless since I own numerous SecuROM/DRM-protected games and none of them have caused any problems for me, I can still burn CDs/DVDs without any issues and my DVD drive works perfectly.

How's that.
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Same as Finzy
as long as it doesn't include the limited installation thing

I mean, what if something goes wrong and I have to re-install it?
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You will be able to reinstall it.
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Well duh but that's not what I meant
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What did you mean then?
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I meant the way you had a limited number of installations before you had to pay.....I think
....isn't that what was in Spore?
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You don't have to pay if you run out of installations, you just have to uninstall it from another computer to free up a slot. I don't know how much this system has changed since Bioshock, but the way it was then was limited simultaneous installs. Means that you have infinite reinstalls, but can only install it on x number of computers.

Of course if something happens and you don't get an "install slot" back you have to contact the publisher and ask them to free up a slot.
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Yeah that happens way too often.
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You don't have to pay if you run out of installations, you just have to uninstall it from another computer to free up a slot. I don't know how much this system has changed since Bioshock, but the way it was then was limited simultaneous installs. Means that you have infinite reinstalls, but can only install it on x number of computers.

Of course if something happens and you don't get an "install slot" back you have to contact the publisher and ask them to free up a slot.

Ah, I get it now
I thought it was a limited number of installs on a single computer

Now that would be ****ed up
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Gamers would certainly make noise if that ever happened.
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You don't have to pay if you run out of installations, you just have to uninstall it from another computer to free up a slot. I don't know how much this system has changed since Bioshock, but the way it was then was limited simultaneous installs. Means that you have infinite reinstalls, but can only install it on x number of computers.

Of course if something happens and you don't get an "install slot" back you have to contact the publisher and ask them to free up a slot.
And how do they check that? I mean, you'd need a internet connection, if you want to install the game (only in this way they'd be able to check whether you installed it or not) and needing an internet connection in order to install a singleplayer game is just stupid...
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Steam does it, right?
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Yes, and not just Steam:

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And how do they check that? I mean, you'd need a internet connection
That has been a requirement in many games, such as Bioshock and games released on Steam for examples.

And they check it by hardware configuration I believe. If you don't change the hardware of a computer you previously installed said game on, it'll qualify for a "free" reinstall without using up another slot.
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I was just reading a comment about some game, can't remember which one was it by someone.

He lost one slot (maybe it was mass effect pc, dunno) because there were errors during installing. That's already 1 out of 3.
If you change HW, another slot. Dunno if reinstalling wins loses another slot.

I know there are many people complaining about it, i really don't know where do you get idea nobody is 'making noise' about it? Just search around internet.

And to hell with it, i payed the game, i want to play it as many times as i want and install it as much as i want, period.

I can maybe forgive them about CD copy protection, i can totaly understand that (although this securom 7 does have problems with it), but limiting the game i PAYED FOR, is absolutely RETARTED and i will not tolerate that, even if it's serious sam, i don't fu*king care. And the nerve of the publisher is beyond imagen. To even dare to tell you to call them and loose even more time and money for phone calls (not all live in usa) to additional slots?! Are you completly out of your mind or something?!

What do you think you would do when your car would stop working at 10.000kms, and to be able to drive, you must either buy new car, or wait and pray to gods that somebody at comany will actually care about you and give you some more kms to drive (and ofcourse pay for phone bill almost more then you would for new game). Who do you think would agree to buy car like that?!

Don't get me wrong, i'm not mad at any of you here, but the fact the they limit the game that you payed for(and it's not cheap either), redifines word 'retardness'.

So no, if SS will have install limitation, GC can kiss my ars.
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