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Old 12-21-2001, 11:59 PM   #1   Add To Ignore List  
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Default Serious Sam vs. Quake 3

This will be the ultimate test here goes:

What has better graphics:
sam or quake?
What is more rough?
sam or quake?
What has better weapons?
sam or quake?
What has a better story line?
sam or quake?
what do you like more?
sam or quake?
which has better characters:
sam or quake?
what has better multiplayer?
sam or quake?

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Old 12-22-2001, 12:30 AM   #2   Add To Ignore List  
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since i havent played full version of quake ill go with ss on all of them
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Old 12-22-2001, 12:52 AM   #3   Add To Ignore List  
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lol, thats what i think everyone would do, i mean this is a serious sam forum
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Old 12-22-2001, 12:53 AM   #4   Add To Ignore List  
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I vouch for Sam on Graphics. For one, the terrain is great and I really was not impressed with the curved surfaces in Quake 3 at all.

WTF does "rough" mean in the way you used it?

Weapons? Hrmph. I was not impressed with the Rail Gun, or the BFG in Quake 3, yet Sam had a giant cannon. Sam wins.

Wait, Quake 3 even had a story line? Where did I miss this? Damn man, damn. Ok, Sam wins. At least it HAS a story line

As you can tell, I like Sam more. For one, I was not impressed with Quake 3 (don't get me started on the half-ass job of Team Arena) in any respect. I was really impressed with Sam's lens flares and the outdoor terrain. I still say that Shogo and Blood II have my favorite water (it flows really smoothly... very cool stuff) but that's another thing!

For characters, I still say Sam. For one, I actually find the Sam ones amusing in Multiplayer (the Afro Disco men come to mind) unlike the Quake 3 ones who, to me, seem bland with their dark palettes.

Multiplayer is a mixed bag, Quake 3 has infintely more solid netcode, but it lacks real fun I would say Sam because I played Coop on my lan for about 5 hours of SS:FE and it was fun as all hell (the sewers are good for a laugh as you 'forget' to warn your friend about the Netrissa message on the fish, and hear him scream when he get's zapped )

Ok, SAM!

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Old 12-22-2001, 12:57 AM   #5   Add To Ignore List  
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well, in q3, its sometrhing about xaero the alien, i mean rough like, wait what do i mean, whatever, i think i forgot lol
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Quake 3 is cool.. and it seems.. really fun multiplayer.. but Sam's got coop, the enemies, and everything else..

Sam wins everywhere, except maybe netcode..
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I really enjoyed both games. I still go back once in awhile and play some add ons for Quake2 some guys have made.

1) I pretty much am impressed equally by the weapons balance.
2) Characters are good in both.
3) As far as roughness, assuming that is difficulty, definitely got to go to Sam.
4) As far as MP, if the netcode was a little better, would say Sam because Sam has coop, just needs more netcode tweaking,
5) As far as graphics, the Q3 engine is awesome, can even render nice curves as well as beautiful graphics (look as ST Elite Force), but it doesn't hold a candle to the power of the Serious Engine which also renders just as beautiful of graphics, wide open spaces, yet lets 500 freaking beasties attack you on the screen at once without a framerate drop (assuming you aren't using a machine below game suggested req.)
6) Storyline text is both pretty thin. But if you go to the Croteam Main site, there is an awesome story to be told for sam, even detailing the creatures and how they came to serve Mental.
7) As far as like, I like both. But there is one main difference:

ID doesn't seem to care all that much about their fan base, as long as they are pulling in the bucks.
But Croteam not only listens to their fan base, but takes an active part on the forums helping people.

To sum it up: Sam wins!
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umm. ssam owns all
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Sam engine is better by the code itself...no argument there.

Quake 3's "action packed" gameplay doesn't even stand a candle to the absurdly insane Serious Sam fragmatch that some people even call "too intense". Girly men you are.

Quake 3 doesn't really have better weapons...the railgun is cool and all but so is the cannon. Plasma guns = Lasers, Sam has two shotguns, the chaingun and machinegun in Quake 3 are pretty lame, I perfer Sam's tommy and minigun, Sam has a better minigun, but Quake 3 wins on powerups, so I say it finishes off Sam here. Plus it has a proxy mine launcher and nail gun (read: Flak gun with different model) that are pretty darn cool. The powerups are very badass though. Kamikaze is one of the goofiest ones of them all, especially on the tight space maps.

Sam has a better story, Quake 3 doesn't even have one. (aliens have captured you so kill stuff now now now). Sam at LEAST has a very long backstory.

I loathe Quake 3 on GSA and stuff.

Quake 3's characters are better. Orb, Mynx, Sarge, Bones, Lucy, Anarki/Slash, Uriel are among the greatest character designs in the world, right up there with Nali WarCow Snipers.

More time was put into Quake 3's (crappy) multiplayer mode. I like Sam more.
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Old 12-22-2001, 02:50 PM   #11   Add To Ignore List  
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Bah. I agree wit hNExidos
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Q3 has much better netcode, multiplayer, weapon balance, built-in CTF, and much better community support. It also is quite a bit older than SS.

SS has a singleplayer, Co-op, and it's cheaper.
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ok, you convinced me.

i love all FPSs
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Old 12-22-2001, 03:53 PM   #14   Add To Ignore List  
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Q3 has much better netcode, multiplayer, weapon balance, built-in CTF, and much better community support. It also is quite a bit older than SS.

SS has a singleplayer, Co-op, and it's cheaper.
Quake 3 had HORRIBLE built-in CTF.

Look at UT's CTF mode. Ok, even on single-player it's damn fun. Hell, I usually just load up UT and play some CTF for hours. But Quake 3's CTF was very un-inspiried and very "run of the mill". It also has better community support because (don't ask why) people hold the iD Software name up with pride. Sure, I did too... until Quake 3. I loved Quake and Quake II so dearly, but Quake 3 just blew so many goat's testicles that I couldn't even stand it. Here is my history of Quake 3:

-bought for 50.00 dollars
-installed
-patched up
-played for 30 minutes
-uninstalled
-want my 50.00 dollars back

Here is my SS:FE history:

-bought for 20.00 dollars
-installed
-(not patched, got it right on release day)
-played for 3 hours
-went to sleep (it was midnight, with school in 8 hours)

Note: FE is still on my hard-drive to this day. Sure you can go "Quake 3 has BFP (which is not as good as many think, I've played RC1 and RC2) and mods!" But IMHO, no game should have to rely on community modifications to even be "playable". I played FE out of the box for hours (not to mention the 6 hour Sam'age on my LAN with my friend) without the need for any mods.

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Old 12-22-2001, 05:40 PM   #15   Add To Ignore List  
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I likem both & have played more q3 than I have Sam. But q3 has been out forever. They both have their pro's & con's. As far as coop, Sam rules. As far as a VERY fast paced game, Q3 rules. Anyone that loathes Q3 hasnt played too many q3 mods. Ive switched DIE HARD UT people over to q3 with my coliseum server. Sam has much more a demand for better vid card. Anyone with a geforce 2 or a voodoo 2 can play q3 all day long & do fine. Not a chance with Sam in multiplayer. I really never cared for deathmatch in Sam, & I did try it out & gave it a lot of chances on serveral servers. Coop just flat out ruled over ir. Not knocking Sam at all. I love it.
Anyone that dont like q3 REALLY needs to try the coliseum mod. I guarantee they will like it. Merry X-Mas all!!!!!!!!!!!



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Yeah.. I hated UT... but I like Quake3 better..
I may get into UT soon.. i dunno
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Old 12-22-2001, 07:29 PM   #17   Add To Ignore List  
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Quake 3 had HORRIBLE built-in CTF.

Look at UT's CTF mode. Ok, even on single-player it's damn fun. Hell, I usually just load up UT and play some CTF for hours. But Quake 3's CTF was very un-inspiried and very "run of the mill". It also has better community support because (don't ask why) people hold the iD Software name up with pride. Sure, I did too... until Quake 3. I loved Quake and Quake II so dearly, but Quake 3 just blew so many goat's testicles that I couldn't even stand it.
This might be valid if we were comparing Q3 and UT, but you obviously can't seem to read the topic.
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Old 12-22-2001, 07:56 PM   #18   Add To Ignore List  
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Quake 3 is shit


it causes its players to become self-centered flammers who can only flame newbs and put everyone down.

the gameplay is shit, the netcode is shit and is still being fixed.

However, the 1337 SS community are none of the above.

and the SS game itself is user friendly and mapping friendly as well.

the system rocks and I love everything about it.
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are the forums are great
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Old 12-22-2001, 08:31 PM   #20   Add To Ignore List  
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Default Re: Serious Sam vs. Quake 3

What has better graphics:
SS ... big time.

What is more rough?
??? Both CDs have an equally smooth surface.

What has better weapons?
Q3 really limped out in the weapons department. I much preferred some of the older ones. All that aside, how can you compaire to a cannon?

What has a better story line?
When I figure out what the storyline in Q3 was, I'll let you know my answer.

what do you like more?
Base game to base game, SS wins. However, there are a lot of mods for Q3 that I really like over SS (for now).

which has better characters:
Hmmm. Headless kamikaze, or a guy with a stogie. An arachnoid the side of a building, or a guy with the butt of a scorpion. Hmmm.

what has better multiplayer?
Both gave me equal fits in the past, but in the end I was able to smooth out SS better than Q3.
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it causes its players to become self-centered flammers who can only flame newbs and put everyone down.
So you admit, you PLAYED quake3...
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there no shame in playing quake 3......and up till this topic when metioned, quake wasnt told off as a bad game.....but whatever




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well.. he was obviously bitching.. and to know what he did.. he obviously played Quake3.. which means.. he is his own creation of hate.
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and dont be ashamed if u played Q3 i played the demo and loved it.......but im not gonna get the game cause my parents wouldnt let me and i dont really want it over other things......
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i'm just kidding; jesus.. take a joke
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i played quake3 the other day... every few months i get quake3 urges and they are normally satisfied in about 30 mins of playing, i don't mind playing it.... but in moderation
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ohhhh joke, right!




really tho, i wasnt thinking ur post was all that serious of idea.....or mine either....anyways
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well, im a mediumbe, (between newb and pro) and i just like to play 30mins every few days
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and dont be ashamed if u played Q3 i played the demo and loved it.......but im not gonna get the game cause my parents wouldnt let me and i dont really want it over other things......
Hey, when you pay 50 bucks for something and it completely fails to please you... just see how much hatred and spite builds up

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Quake 3 is for suckers. I know I actually bought team arena which I thought was good on the terrain maps as long as you blotted out the tacky character models and worse skins. I have Q3a for Win32 AND Linux. Q2 has better DM than q3a. Id software is purely a for proffit operation nowadoays in my opinion. Carmack is into making new tchnology for himself and the rest of the company is interested in making money. Proof is the multiplayer in RTCW. What a joke. It really does not latter what there is in Id software games anymore. Buying them is like throwing away monet into a bottomless pit. Sam has a community and you can even communicate directly with the game makers. That is unparalleled. On top of thet Sam is FUN! What a navel concept and game being fun, heh heh heh.
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