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Old 03-15-2015, 09:57 AM   #1   Add To Ignore List  
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I've been working on this one for a long time now and finished it a while ago.

It's five map long little story for The Second Encounter. It takes place in an imaginary empire, that mysteriously became completely empty. The story of the whole empire unfolds as you play.

The maps themselves focus mainly on atmosphere.

Some screens.

http://i.imgur.com/fSXVP6d.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/83aJjwT.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/8fQp9Z4.jpg

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http://i.imgur.com/0sfDKDj.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/L2WJPpW.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/czqM3bE.jpg

Download link - Currently dropbox, but if you want me to upload it to somewhere else, then tell me.

Steam Workshop for Revolution version

Currently working on the loose sequel and prequel.

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Interesting! Any plans for a Revolution version and a Workshop release?
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My Steam hasn't been working for like a year now, so I haven't thought about that. To be honest, I don't even know what Revolution is.
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Woah cool map. Do you plan work on next maps?
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Yeah. I'm currently working on another one, which loosely follows this one and a loose prequel is planned too. But given how slowly I work, I wouldn't be expecting it this year.
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Revolution is an attempt for a Steam focused update to SS1 Classic. If you got SS1 on Steam, you get it free and it got Steam Workshop support.

Also how come Steam didn't work for a year now? I've never seen people with not working Steam. Even if damaged, it only needs a reinstall.
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If you have both classic encounters on steam, then you'll get Revo for free. If you haven't them, you must pay 4,99 € for Revo, but you can also buy Classic games (2,49 per one game) so better pay 5 € for 2 games and get 3 games, IMO.
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If you have Rev, you'll get the Classics as well. Whichever you buy, you'll get all three. On Steam sales, the whole thing is even more cheaper.
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Revolution is an attempt for a Steam focused update to SS1 Classic. If you got SS1 on Steam, you get it free and it got Steam Workshop support.

Also how come Steam didn't work for a year now? I've never seen people with not working Steam. Even if damaged, it only needs a reinstall.
The last thing I did with Steam was getting L4D2, when it was free on Christmas. Since then, all Steam can do for me is update and crash without a word. I tried reinstalling, but the same thing happened.
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Never heard such a problem before. There's no error messages?

Have you tried this: https://support.steampowered.com/kb_...5774-UXVB-5193

Also, I'm noticing that your map have been likely archived wrongly, not to mention the folders are not right either, so the game can't see the levels.

EDIT: Why does your levels seek the files of the main gro files outside of the gro files, in weird folders named like the gro files?

EDIT2: Tried to fix it, but it just won't do. The maps basically asking people to extract their gro files for some reason. What kind of weird version of TSE you have?
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Never heard such a problem before. There's no error messages?
Nothing. No error. Nothing. Tried everything, but nothing worked.

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Why does your levels seek the files of the main gro files outside of the gro files, in weird folders named like the gro files?
Strange. I must have goofed something up, but it works fine on my end. Try extracting the whole folder in the gro into LevelsMP, maybe the game is being weird. I just tried it. I deleted my folder and it didn't show up in game. Once I extracted, it did show up.

People were also having problems a few years ago, when I submitted some other maps. Perhaps I didn't know something about gro-ing.

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Tried to fix it, but it just won't do. The maps basically asking people to extract their gro files for some reason. What kind of weird version of TSE you have?
Try extracting the entire 'minipack004' folder. I have V1.07, isn't that the latest?

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Are you perhaps extracting the gros as folders, like
C:\Games\Serious Sam The Second Encounter\SE1_00\Textures\

and then using these extracted files when mapping? That's wrong, you should be extracting them to the main dir, like

C:\Games\Serious Sam The Second Encounter\Textures\
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Oh. I didn't know about that.

Hold on, brb fixing that.

Edit: Oh sweet Osiris. Every single model, sound and a few entities are in the wrong folder. This is more serious than I thought.

I should be able to finish by the end of the day.

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Yes, that's what I noticed too. I thought that I'd only need a resave after extracting the gro files like that, but nope.

Also, for some reason there's no music at the first half of the first level.
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I don't know anything about that. That music is not even from the original gros.
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Is it .ogg? I haven't downloaded the map yet so I can't check. TSE can read .mp3 if you paste amp11lib.dll in the game's Bin folder, but not everyone knows he can do that.
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Looks very nice
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It is .ogg. I convert every music file I use to .ogg.
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Actually, when I first tried the level, it got the usual error:

Cannot open encoded audio 'Levels\LevelsMP\Minipack004\Music\01 peace.ogg' for streaming: encoded audio in archives must not be compressed!
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That's another error I haven't experienced. Perhaps it has something to do with the fact, that I imported it from BFE, but I'm not sure why that would be a problem.
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You know what? I give up! Tried replacing every single model and texture, but it cannot be done. There's always that single model, that tiny spec of texture somewhere in the corner, it's just impossible.

I'll just tell people to extract the gros as folders, if I ever submit it to somewhere.
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GoG, what do you think? You're them expert on SS1 mapping stuff. Is there a way to solve this in the Classic games?

In Revolution, it would be arguably possible with modding the ReplaceHistory.txt, though never tried it before as a mod.
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Hope you get it fixed up, these maps look amazing.
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Well, only thing that comes to mind is, when you delete these folders and extract them as you should, and open the map in SeriousEditor, it should give you a prompt to point at the missing files. Actually that has never happened to me, but I remember I read it somewhere, I think it was in the help file...

Make a copy of the whole Serious Sam folder first, as a backup just in case.
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I am not sure, but these tools might help you (made by Scratch):

World Dependecy Tool

Revolution Packer

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Oh yeah, the World Dependency Tool should help with identifying all the files the levels are using. For Revolution, I'll try to mod the ReplaceHistory.txt .
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Okay, sorry for the double post, but I have managed to fix the map pack for Revolution:

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https://www.mediafire.com/?wgbzcgwfgpnl4gn
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Unfortunately, only for Revolution, as TSE classic doesn't have the ReplaceHistory.txt. The music compression problem I solved by making a new zip/gro file with 0 compression, which made the size of the file larger.

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BTW, I noticed that these levels are full of z-fighting and leaks at edges. However, is it possible that my settings are somehow off? Because I recently played some older custom levels, and they had this problem too, even though in the original, there was no such issue.
Some screenshots, just to be sure:

http://i.imgur.com/Ppv4Ddo.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/yfOFivF.jpg
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Okay, so which tool should I use? It's kind of confusing. With technical stuff like this, I need to be talked to like a child.

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The first screenshot happens on my end too, but playing around the graphic settings fixed it for me. But nothing is as severe as the second one.
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With the World Dependency Tool, you could find out which files your maps are using, and you could pack only those inside the gro file.
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So their location in the SE1_00 folder stays, but it gets packed along with the whole .gro. That's useful, I'll try that.

Edit: Used Autogro instead. Found it much more easier to understand. Started the upload to my dropbox. Let's see if it works.

Edit2: Aaaand, done!.... Does it work?

Edit3: Wait, damn, I forgot about something. It should work now, but I forgot about the way I messed up the fireholders, so I could find which one is using the wrong folder.

Edit4: It should be groovy now.

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