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Old 07-30-2016, 11:05 PM   #61  
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So from my experience with (finally) playing SS2 coop, this is what I have to say:

1. Please have enough vehicles for everyone
2. Arena levels sucked, they should've kept the special gravity ones in Sam2000
3. Uptown, Downtown, and Mental's Institution are the only good levels in the Sirius chapter
4. Downtown should have more in-building sections like in Uptown, preferably with a nice view (like the small bridge section)
5. It's a bit of a grind if both Downtown and Institution are fight levels
6. Institution could be more than just a plain surrounded by the city with metal grids
7. While I never got to experience Coast 2 Cost in coop, it's still among the best levels in SS2
8. Music's great, Damjan should make them more like that in the remake (the cool ones, not the cartoony ones)
9. Plasma Rifle > Laser Gun
10. Klawdovik should be kept in some form
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I would say make it actually work for 16 players or change the max player count for the game. There are many places where there isn't enough happening to make it interesting for 16 people. And it's more than just the lack of vehicles. We had to turn it up to Serious difficulty with +50% health and +10% per player health to make it challenging. And we still beat the game in basically 6 hours. And we were booking it through with only 8-12 players.
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Yeah, sometimes the enemies just come out one at a time.
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That's because we overwhelmed the game and got ahead to where the spawners were.
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Old 07-31-2016, 04:37 AM   #65  
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You know how some levels in SS2 are split into two or three? Well, I think they should be merged together in that reboot. For example, Chanolin Chambers, Chanolin Temple, and Prince Chan (Level) should be combined into one. So should the prior two levels of Chi'Fang.
Serious Sam 2 was simultaneously developed for the PC and Xbox, so it was severely limited by the Xbox' old hardware (the 360 was available little over a month after Sam2's release). That's why the levels are pretty small and there's invisible barriers everywhere. It sounds very likely that, because it will be a loose remake, the levels will be much bigger and use elements of every episode rather than just remake every level. Plus, if Croteam's current MO is anything to go by it will be released for PC first, receive some patches and DLC and then gets a proper port to some of the current consoles so console hardware will be less of an issue.

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Levels should be longer and some chapters might need more maps. Our nightly playthrough with 8-12 people tends to end in 45 minutes or so on most chapters.
Oh really? A chapter in 45 minutes with 8-12 players? Who would have expected having so many players without an equal increase in monster count/strength would result in greatly decreased playtime? You blew my mind. Next thing you're telling me that playing the single player campaign with the chainsaw only will greatly increase the playtime.

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Old 07-31-2016, 11:48 AM   #66  
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We did increase the monster strength. At one point it was 200%.
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Old 08-12-2016, 06:24 PM   #67  
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Any more unused soundtracks in SS2? I know the ones from Ellenier, Magnor, Kleer, and M'Digbo, but I'm talking about the other unused songs intended for this game.

How about the unused enemy sounds, specifically the tanks?
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The archive I linked also contained the unused menu music (though used in the "title cutscene"). Besides that, nothing else.
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I can also only assume that some unused Serious Sam II Voice lines were lost.
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I know the "Lets get serious" quote has a different file name.
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Oldest version of the SS2 cutscenes: <Click!>

Note: Please don't upload the old cutscenes to youtube, as they use music from famous franchises and it will cause trouble.


Old quotes by Sam and Nettie: <Click!>

Note: Please use these in custom maps, because some are really great.


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Old 08-14-2016, 07:59 AM   #72  
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Most of the quotes are cut off at the end

Thanks for the old cutscenes by the way. I'll watch them later. Tuesday is frog in my ear too.
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I think that's your shitty Winamp you mentioned. My Winamp plays them correctly.
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I think that's your shitty Winamp you mentioned. My Winamp plays them correctly.
I'm playing them on WMP


Am I allowed to upload them if I remove the copyrighted music?
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Old 08-14-2016, 08:20 AM   #75  
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No, the wonder of these old versions are the random copyrighted stuff used as reference.
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Old 08-14-2016, 08:28 AM   #76  
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God I love her voice. She can narrate my life.
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Old 08-14-2016, 09:06 AM   #77  
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I love Croatians attempting to speak English

1_7 INTRO: The best thing about cut FMVs is that we get to see older versions of stuff, such as the T-Mech. Also, Croteam really love that kaijuu screech, don't they? Did they buy the rights to it or was it just a free stock sound?

1_7 OUTRO: lmao, why the fuck are you yelling

2_3/4/5: Why the repeats?

3_2 INTRO: It's broken

3_2 OUTRO: What's with the test screens?

4_1 OUTRO: Those car models, damn.

4_2 OUTRO: It's broken

5_2 INTRO: Looks different from the E3 one.

5_4 OUTRO: Repeat.

5_5 INTRO: Repeat.

5_6 INTRO: Why all the repeats?

5_6 OUTRO: Repeat.

5_7 INTRO: lol placeholder dragon

6_1 INTRO: No Pechina?

6_2 OUTRO: Repeat of 6_5.

6_3: Repeat.

6_5 BOSS OUTRO: What about all that Alliance stuff?

7_1 INTRO: Where's that music from?

7_2 OUTRO: Oh, now I finally get it. The arena levels were meant to be homage to Episode 2's Geonosis Arena Also, great to see that it's only one fucking level.

7_5 INTRO: Repeat.

7_5 OUTRO: Bus looks so weird lol. Also, Croteam is really patriotic, eh?

7_6 INTRO: Now it's a train?

7_7 INTRO: Repeat.

Medallions: All the same. Design looks off though. I like the final one better.

No ending or episode cutscenes?
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My god, the beta version of Cecil was a two headed dragon?! Interesting. Solais, I'm far too interested in unused content in Sam 2. Maybe the weapon sounds were lost too.

By the way, SS2 Reboot might even have vehicles as well.
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I'm playing them on WMP
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No ending or episode cutscenes?
Nope. The episode cutscenes that are in the final game are the first and last versions. They were made the last.

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My god, the beta version of Cecil was a two headed dragon?! Interesting.
That's the Cerberus enemy model, meaning, it was a placeholder until the dragon model was done.
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Well, they always said two heads are better than one.
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But how does it fart?
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Old 08-14-2016, 11:43 AM   #83  
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By the way Solais, please try to find those cut multiplayer maps. Seriously! needs them badly for events.
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Sorry, I'm not allowed to share those. They will be repurposed for the reboot.
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I can't believe John J. Dick recorded himself doing a Tarzan yell at the time!!! Too bad it was never used.

I love the quotes such as "I guess Hunting Season's gonna have to open early." and "Come here, you big ape!"
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Those sound very familiar, are you sure they're not used? Or maybe I just listened to them before, that's possible too lol
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Well, for instance I don't remember Nettie telling me in SS2 to shoot the tires of vehicles that are chasing me.
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There are definitely a few that ended up in the game, but I'm sure at least 80% is unused.
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