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Old 02-20-2017, 03:37 AM   #1831  
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There will be prequels now or later, until we reach the point where Sam awakens Mental and start all the sh*t. Which is not bad thing. IMO even the SS2 reboot/remake will not give us the final battle against Mental because I think that Croteam wants to show us the beginning of the storyline, before they show us the end of it.

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Old 02-20-2017, 09:41 AM   #1832  
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Serious Sam is all pretty much about going back in time. And it's probably going to keep going further back in time (Mostly). Nothing bad about that though..
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Serious Sam is all pretty much about going back in time. And it's probably going to keep going further back in time (Mostly). Nothing bad about that though..
Serious Sam is about shooting stuff.
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Old 02-21-2017, 10:05 AM   #1834  
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Somewhere between 21 - 28 february, six years ago Serious Sam 3 was revealed via one, single screenshot of Scrapjack.
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Old 02-21-2017, 10:13 AM   #1835  
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https://static.trueachievements.com/customimages/001986.jpg

I don't remember the Scrapjack being in any of the city levels. Didn't it first appear in Karnak?

Bonus: Can anyone tell which SS3 level this is?

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Old 02-21-2017, 04:12 PM   #1836  
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That was a later screenshot And it looks like "Broken wings" to me. I think in the final version there are three or four clone soldiers + kleer skeleton.

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Old 02-21-2017, 04:21 PM   #1837  
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Then which screenshot are you referring to? This one?

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Old 02-21-2017, 05:43 PM   #1838  
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As far as I remember this one was the first screenshot. Which is actually the same scene, from different angle.
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Old 02-21-2017, 08:51 PM   #1839  
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Scrapjacks appeared in the demo version of Broken Wings, replacing Adult Arachnoids.
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Old 02-25-2017, 07:45 PM   #1840  
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I might have already mentioned this earlier in the thread but BFE was completely devoid of the atmosphere or ambience of TFE and TSE. The progression from morning to dusk was also beautifully done. The skyboxes looked great and all of the little flames around the levels did a lot for the ambiance.

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https://i.imgur.com/8pgxRm4.png

There's also something strangely beautiful about massive, sprawling plains with little to break up the landscape aside from enormous enemies.

https://i.imgur.com/S4gMFRY.png

Large, open areas were kept to an absolute minimum in BFE and further restricted by the Sand Whale. A lot of the levels essentially take place in corridors with some dead ends demarcated with the same crumbling rock.

There's just something about the atmosphere in SSHD that keeps me coming back. The dusk levels capture the feeling of sunsets in the spring and summer. Even in the driest, sandiest, most monotonous levels, TFE/TSE manage to look amazingly good while BFE just looks kind of drab and depressing.

https://i.imgur.com/3wy8Jsj.png

I think that Croteam took a huge step back stylistically when they abandoned SSHD for what we got in BFE.

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Old 02-26-2017, 03:46 AM   #1841  
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Somehow SSHD in your screenshots look better than they usually are...

I still stand by my opinion that SSXBOX is the most beautiful SS game though. It's SE1 at its best.
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Old 02-26-2017, 05:05 AM   #1842  
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Agree with Pika on both beautiful screenshots and best art-style being SS1. Also, great point as well, Poorchop, you hit the nail with your point.
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Old 02-26-2017, 05:07 AM   #1843  
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Somehow SSHD in your screenshots look better than they usually are...

You only played them once, so your memory is probably playing tricks. Maybe you haven't even played them on Ultra.

And I agree, SSHD (not SS1) looks quite awesome.
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Old 02-26-2017, 10:00 AM   #1844  
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I still stand by my opinion that SSXBOX is the most beautiful SS game though. It's SE1 at its best.
I agree but I also think SSRev with the xbox model packs and with the saturation filter increased up a bit is also SE1 at its best. Actually, I think its SS at its best IMHO (Artstyle-wise).


Until SS4 comes out. Maybe. Probably.
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Old 02-26-2017, 02:23 PM   #1845  
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This may seem absurd but I almost want a second set of remakes for the Encounters. I look at Egypt at night and I absolutely adore the ambiance but I want to see it with updated graphics and maybe even SSC's art style. But I understand that this is purely a pipe dream and is probably not going to happen anytime soon if ever.
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Old 02-26-2017, 02:25 PM   #1846  
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want a second set of remakes for the Encounters
You have no idea how close I came to jumping out of the window upon seeing that statement.
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Old 02-26-2017, 02:33 PM   #1847  
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Oh yeah? Well, remember that one April Fool's joke where SS4 takes place exclusively on the Arachnoid home planet where there's nothing but sand and hitscan Arachnoids? I want that to be true.

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Old 02-26-2017, 03:25 PM   #1848  
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I believe that for the most part the thing you say you want are not things you actually want. Certainly not the things you need.
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Old 02-26-2017, 08:08 PM   #1849  
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Are you saying that I wasn't being serious with the last post?

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Old 02-26-2017, 10:55 PM   #1850  
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You already got a second set of remakes for the Classics. Xbox was the first, seeing as how it used newer textures and some updated weapon/enemy models. By splitting up the levels, Xbox also had the opportunity to use a wider variety of music and delicious skyboxes. HD was the second remake.

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Old 02-27-2017, 12:53 PM   #1851  
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The Xbox version was a port, not a remake. Many ports have slightly improved graphics but that doesn't make them remakes. The Xbox port of GTA: San Andreas had an improved draw distance and loading times, was it a remake?

Again, I have it clear that this just a pipe dream that is not going to come to fruition anytime soon if ever.
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Old 02-27-2017, 03:23 PM   #1852  
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Generally speaking ports don't add new content. So in your example of GTA: San Andreas having better load times and draw distance, it doesn't change the actual game's content so it's a port. The console versions of Serious Sam 3 and Talos didn't touch the actual game, just optimized and tweaked the game to tailor the console, which also make it a port.

If Croteam only combined the two games, split the levels to accommodate the hardware limitations, added aim assist for the controller and called it a day I would've called it a port, but Croteam went much further. They composed new music for the split levels, created a ton of cutscenes for between the levels, created a lives system, updated the saving system, changed how the Serious Bomb works, updated a lot of the models (and gave Sam a whole new look), added some funny easter eggs to the levels and probably some other things I forgot. People call it a port, but I think it's much closer to a remaster.
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Old 02-27-2017, 04:02 PM   #1853  
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I wouldn't call it a remaster either because that carries the connotation of a generational leap in technology. I can not think of a single "remaster" that was done with the same level of hardware as the original game. The original Xbox had relatively the same amount of power as PCs when First Encounter was released, so let's just call Xbox SS a... content rich port. There, content rich port, I like the sound of that.
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Old 02-27-2017, 06:00 PM   #1854  
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Yeah, I can agree with that.
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Old 02-28-2017, 01:27 AM   #1855  
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Did Discy just... agree with me?

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Oh yeah? Well, remember that one April Fool's joke where SS4 takes place exclusively on the Arachnoid home planet where there's nothing but sand and hitscan Arachnoids? I want that to be true.

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Old 02-28-2017, 09:33 AM   #1857  
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I like the idea of your map, but... damn that looks scary.

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Yeah yeah, hell freezeth over.

You know, I remember people creating threads in the support forums right after the release of TFE HD asking where the rest of the game was. Apparently people who only played the Xbox version and saw the remaster for the 360 thought it would contain both games since they didn't know they were originally separate releases.
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Old 03-01-2017, 07:47 PM   #1858  
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Like it too and I agree it looks pretty scary! Like an alien to me, but they are technically aliens but good concept. SS4 should have many of the variations like the usual Scorp men, like the yellow and red variations, the arachnoids that were on the museum in eggs, and some mech (or alienoid) like spider creature like that from SS2 or Doom.
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